[Heeplist] Outsider

Don Malecic docofun at gmail.com
Sun Dec 14 12:22:08 EST 2014


Hi Igor,
Ya your right, definitely a bad time not only for Byron but, many musicians
starting solo careers at that time.
 No doubt Byron wanted to take the path of a solo career.
 My point I wanted to make out of this was, that if you cut Byron, he would
bleed rock n roll.
What do you mean exactly by the  wording
" technically fired " Are you saying it was entirely his decision to leave ?
Do we know what really went down?
The vibe I always got from listening and reading some of Hensleys
interviews, was that it was the bands and managements decision .
I could be wrong.
D

On Sunday, December 14, 2014, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Don,
> It is always important to remember WHEN it was said. 1979, if I am not
> mistaken? Of course, by then Byron still hoped to get a proper solo carreer
> and still thought it was a good decision to LEAVE Heep - I am sure he was
> fired only techically and the choice to leave was entirely his. That is why
> he also declined Box's offfer in 1981. But the problem was that the big
> music wirld wasn't really interested in any other kind of Byron than the
> one of Uriah Heep. And that killed him in the end, I believe.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Sat, 13 Dec 2014 19:36:29 -0800 от Don Malecic <docofun at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
> >Hi Bob  ,
> >And I think that  Byron mentioned himself in an interview with Tetley,
> that
> >he was a rock n roller, wasn't interested in any music style related to
> >Heep, said Hensley was going off on a tangent with his writing style.
> >Don't know if this was said because he was upset on his dismissal or not?
> >But ya, your right, the evidence is right there on those two solo albums.
> >D
> >
> >On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Bob Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >
> >> You are right Don, no fantasy in Rough Diamond or On the Rocks
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/13/14 11:33 AM, "Don Malecic" < docofun at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Na Igor,
> >> Byron was a genuine Rock n Roller. He would have liked Outsider!
> >> > :))))))
> >> He wasn't to big on the fantasy thing, like Hensley was.
> >> D
> >>
> >> On
> >> > Saturday, December 13, 2014, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ladies and gentlemen,
> >> > Don't know whether you will agree with me or not, but
> >> > some albums are not
> >> > what they seem at first. Perhaps it is only my
> >> > perception of things but
> >> > still... I mean, we are all people and may have
> >> > something in common. :) So,
> >> > during the first month after I got it I listened
> >> > to Outsider quite often,
> >> > sometimes even twice or thrice a day, - like to
> >> > most of this Heep version's
> >> > LP's, but afterwards lost the interest in it
> >> > entirely. I know, it is only a
> >> > matter of time, and the songs are good but...
> >> > they are plain rock'n'roll, I
> >> > don't feel like there is another dimension to
> >> > them, and it is very unlike
> >> > that Heep band which I return to very often, at
> >> > least in my thoughts and
> >> > dreams. I am sure that has a lot to do with the
> >> > nature of the main
> >> > composers: Hensley and Byron surely had a touch of
> >> > dreaming and genuine
> >> > fantasy to their creative side while Mick and Phil seem
> >> > to be more earthly
> >> > guys. They just rock. No way the above said means they
> >> > are not good at what
> >> > they do, but that "earthly" quality reflects on their
> >> > music for sure, at
> >> > least that is how I see it.
> >> > Cheers, Igor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Fri, 12
> >> > Dec 2014 19:57:46 -0800 от DAVID M SHERROD < porcupineheep at cox.net
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>
> >> >
> >> > <javascript:;>>:
> >> > >Like you, I just listened to it for the first time in a
> >> > month or two, and
> >> > really enjoyed it a lot, great album
> >> > > Dave S.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > >Jay Pearson <  deepheep at yahoo.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >> > >>Just put this on
> >> > for the first time in a couple of months. What a
> >> > fantastic album!!!!
> >> >
> >> > >>Anyone else still listening & enjoying it?
> >> > >>Jay
> >> >
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