[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Scott Cokeley scokeley67 at msn.com
Fri Nov 21 19:45:37 EST 2014 

Great song!! I have some vinyl of New England..

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> On Nov 19, 2014, at 2:49 PM, "Shawn Mctopy" <shawn.mctopy at selu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Here's a catchy tune:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clEcdZyeHC4
> 
> 
> Saw this group open a show for *KISS* back in 1979.
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe, boarish also fits well in some cases :))))))) I enjoyed the
>> spelling as well, welcome! :)))))))))))
>> Cheers, Igor
>> 
>> 
>> Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:57:26 +0000 от Martin Turk <martindturk at hotmail.com>:
>>> Gentlemen gentlemen please!
>>> 
>>> Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out
>> that the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole'
>> (although the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues).
>>> I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...
>>> 
>>> Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.
>>> 
>>> Waaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaha!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
>>>> From:  jamielaaugust at gmail.com
>>>> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru;  heeplist at travellersintime.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
>>>> 
>>>> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to
>> this
>>>> website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Merrick, I do.
>>>>> From the Oxford dictionary:
>>>>> call someone names 3
>>>>> Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and
>> I was
>>>>> one of them
>>>>> 
>>>>> You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular
>>>>> mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care
>> whether you
>>>>> meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone
>> who
>>>>> has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And
>> don't
>>>>> you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED
>> CRITIC) or (
>>>>> SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you
>>>>> mention the addressee or not.
>>>>> Cheers, Igor
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics,
>>>>> criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any
>> names
>>>>> attached to my comment?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MADMAN
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
>>>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>>>>>> To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <
>> heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>>>>> Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Madman,
>>>>>> Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and
>>>>> saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
>>>>>> What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In
>> my
>>>>> opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain
>> things
>>>>> not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that
>> is the
>>>>> difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect
>>>>> much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only
>> prove
>>>>> what I make of it.
>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick.
>> There
>>>>> is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> MADMAN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
>>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>>>>>>> To:  "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>>>>>> Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some
>> self-proclaimed
>>>>> critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
>>>>> ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or
>> just
>>>>> some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say.
>> That is
>>>>> what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
>>>>> respond and try to be polite, at least.
>>>>>>> Cheers, Igor
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>>>>>>> I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
>>>>> oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it
>> is
>>>>> what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have
>> a
>>>>> solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen
>> to it.
>>>>> For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the
>> many
>>>>> different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me
>>>>> smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self
>> listening
>>>>> to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self
>> proclaimed
>>>>> critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all
>> others. I
>>>>> will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it.
>> Like I
>>>>> need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always
>> be over
>>>>> opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't
>> matter.
>>>>> With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I
>> head off
>>>>> in the van.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> MADMAN
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Winward" <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
>>>>>>>> To: "heeplist" <  heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems
>> to be
>>>>>>>> saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972
>> era
>>>>> Uriah
>>>>>>>> Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another
>> recent
>>>>>>>> post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah
>> Heep is
>>>>>>>> better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as
>> I
>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>> anyone will say that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of
>> Uriah
>>>>> Heep
>>>>>>>> that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the
>> past,
>>>>>>>> yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such
>> point
>>>>>>>> into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop
>> left, lol
>>>>>>>> :-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down
>> and
>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the
>> past
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> reject the now?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now
>> that
>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As
>> some of
>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current
>> band?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to
>> figure
>>>>> out why
>>>>>>>> you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a
>> list
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on
>> hands and
>>>>>>>> knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you
>> sir,
>>>>> may I
>>>>>>>> please have some more"?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
>>>>> Uriah Heep,
>>>>>>>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
>>>>> pretty much
>>>>>>>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't
>> see
>>>>> where they
>>>>>>>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are
>>>>> made in
>>>>>>>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
>>>>> them. Gypsy
>>>>>>>>> was different, but that's another band and another story
>> altogether.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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