[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Pete Wharton heeplistpete at ntlworld.com
Thu Nov 20 10:32:45 EST 2014 

Ha ha ha, thanks Martin for taking on my pedantic, educational role while I
haven't had time to read posts on time :-) If this was Facebook, that would
be a definite like :-)

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Turk
Sent: 19 November 2014 19:57
To: heeplist at travellersintime.com
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Gentlemen gentlemen please! 

Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out that
the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole' (although
the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues).  
I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...

Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.

Waaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaha!


> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
> From: jamielaaugust at gmail.com
> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru; heeplist at travellersintime.com
> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
> 
> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to 
> this website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
wrote:
> 
> >  Merrick, I do.
> > From the Oxford dictionary:
> > call someone names 3
> > Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and 
> > I was one of them
> >
> > You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your 
> > regular mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not 
> > care whether you meant anyone on the list, this is just plain 
> > bourish regarding anyone who has an argumented opinion, as well as your
position in general.  And don't
> > you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC)
or (
> > SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if 
> > you mention the addressee or not.
> > Cheers, Igor
> >
> >
> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >
> > >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of 
> > >critics,
> > criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a 
> > any names attached to my comment?
> > >
> > >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
> > >
> > >MADMAN
> > >
> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >---
> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> > >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" 
> > ><heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
> > >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
> > >
> > >Madman,
> > >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names 
> > >and
> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
> > >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In 
> > >my
> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain 
> > things not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my 
> > eyes, that is the difference between constructive and bourish. Of 
> > course, I don't expect much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  
> > will be enough and only prove what I make of it.
> > >Igor
> > >
> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >>
> > >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. 
> > >> There
> > is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know 
> > the difference.
> > >>
> > >>MADMAN
> > >>
> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>----
> > >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> > >>To:  "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> > >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
> > >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> > >>
> > >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some 
> > >> self-proclaimed
> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician, 
> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or 
> > just some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to 
> > say. That is what people communicate for, if you don't like it - 
> > well, just don't respond and try to be polite, at least.
> > >>Cheers, Igor
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples 
> > >>>and
> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it 
> > is what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I 
> > have a solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't
listen to it.
> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the 
> > many different line ups and the many different albums to listen to 
> > makes me smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my 
> > self listening to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how 
> > many self proclaimed critics there are , like their opinion is 
> > somehow valid above all others. I will say it again, you don't like 
> > the new heep don't listen to it. Like I need validation of what real 
> > Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over opinionated critics in
every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter.
> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I 
> > head off in the van.
> > >>>
> > >>>MADMAN
> > >>>
> > >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>
> > >>>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net >
> > >>>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> > >>>
> > >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he 
> > >>>seems to be saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down 
> > >>>version of the 1972 era
> > Uriah
> > >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another 
> > >>>recent post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
> > >>>
> > >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah 
> > >>>Heep is better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical 
> > >>>question as I
> > doubt
> > >>>anyone will say that.
> > >>>
> > >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of 
> > >>>Uriah
> > Heep
> > >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate 
> > >>>the past, yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
> > >>>
> > >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor 
> > >>>such point into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or 
> > >>>maybe a drop left, lol
> > >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down 
> > >>>and
> > such
> > >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the 
> > >>>past
> > and
> > >>>reject the now?
> > >>>
> > >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now 
> > >>>that
> > does
> > >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As 
> > >>>some of
> > us
> > >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
> > >>>
> > >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current
band?
> > >>>
> > >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to 
> > >>>figure
> > out why
> > >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a 
> > >>>list
> > of
> > >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on 
> > >>>hands and knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out 
> > >>>"Thank you sir,
> > may I
> > >>>please have some more"?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that 
> > >>>> as
> > Uriah Heep,
> > >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep 
> > >>>> plays
> > pretty much
> > >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't 
> > >>>> see
> > where they
> > >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they 
> > >>>> are
> > made in
> > >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you 
> > >>>> call
> > them. Gypsy
> > >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story
altogether.
> > >>>Cheers,
> > >>>> Igor
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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