[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Wed Nov 19 17:51:53 EST 2014

To liven things up a bit - a random bit of video chuckles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhByhAfhR08

:)

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Shawn Mctopy <shawn.mctopy at selu.edu> wrote:

> Here's a catchy tune:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clEcdZyeHC4
>
>
> Saw this group open a show for *KISS* back in 1979.
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>
>>  I believe, boarish also fits well in some cases :))))))) I enjoyed the
>> spelling as well, welcome! :)))))))))))
>> Cheers, Igor
>>
>>
>> Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:57:26 +0000 от Martin Turk <martindturk at hotmail.com>:
>> >Gentlemen gentlemen please!
>> >
>> >Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out
>> that the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole'
>> (although the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues).
>> >I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...
>> >
>> >Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.
>> >
>> >Waaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaha!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
>> >> From:  jamielaaugust at gmail.com
>> >> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru;  heeplist at travellersintime.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
>> >>
>> >> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to
>> this
>> >> website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >  Merrick, I do.
>> >> > From the Oxford dictionary:
>> >> > call someone names 3
>> >> > Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and
>> I was
>> >> > one of them
>> >> >
>> >> > You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular
>> >> > mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care
>> whether you
>> >> > meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding
>> anyone who
>> >> > has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And
>> don't
>> >> > you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED
>> CRITIC) or (
>> >> > SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you
>> >> > mention the addressee or not.
>> >> > Cheers, Igor
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of
>> critics,
>> >> > criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a
>> any names
>> >> > attached to my comment?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >MADMAN
>> >> > >
>> >> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
>> >> >
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> >> > >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <
>> heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>> >> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
>> >> > >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Madman,
>> >> > >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names
>> and
>> >> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
>> >> > >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In
>> my
>> >> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain
>> things
>> >> > not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that
>> is the
>> >> > difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't
>> expect
>> >> > much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only
>> prove
>> >> > what I make of it.
>> >> > >Igor
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick.
>> There
>> >> > is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know
>> the
>> >> > difference.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>MADMAN
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
>> >> >
>> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> >> > >>To:  "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>> >> > >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
>> >> > >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some
>> self-proclaimed
>> >> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
>> >> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or
>> just
>> >> > some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say.
>> That is
>> >> > what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
>> >> > respond and try to be polite, at least.
>> >> > >>Cheers, Igor
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>> >> > >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
>> >> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it
>> is
>> >> > what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I
>> have a
>> >> > solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen
>> to it.
>> >> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the
>> many
>> >> > different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes
>> me
>> >> > smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self
>> listening
>> >> > to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self
>> proclaimed
>> >> > critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all
>> others. I
>> >> > will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it.
>> Like I
>> >> > need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always
>> be over
>> >> > opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't
>> matter.
>> >> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I
>> head off
>> >> > in the van.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>MADMAN
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>From: "Bob Winward" <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
>> >> > >>>To: "heeplist" <  heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>> >> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
>> >> > >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he
>> seems to be
>> >> > >>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the
>> 1972 era
>> >> > Uriah
>> >> > >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another
>> recent
>> >> > >>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah
>> Heep is
>> >> > >>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question
>> as I
>> >> > doubt
>> >> > >>>anyone will say that.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of
>> Uriah
>> >> > Heep
>> >> > >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate
>> the past,
>> >> > >>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor
>> such point
>> >> > >>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop
>> left, lol
>> >> > >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down
>> and
>> >> > such
>> >> > >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the
>> past
>> >> > and
>> >> > >>>reject the now?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now
>> that
>> >> > does
>> >> > >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As
>> some of
>> >> > us
>> >> > >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any
>> current band?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to
>> figure
>> >> > out why
>> >> > >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a
>> list
>> >> > of
>> >> > >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on
>> hands and
>> >> > >>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you
>> sir,
>> >> > may I
>> >> > >>>please have some more"?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
>> >> > Uriah Heep,
>> >> > >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
>> >> > pretty much
>> >> > >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't
>> see
>> >> > where they
>> >> > >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they
>> are
>> >> > made in
>> >> > >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
>> >> > them. Gypsy
>> >> > >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story
>> altogether.
>> >> > >>>Cheers,
>> >> > >>>> Igor
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
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