[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Thu Nov 20 14:04:02 EST 2014

 Actually, any word that consists a root  "phobe" can mean no good :)))))))))))))))But the one who lives in China probably confused you with someone else. But that was surely and unfriendly gesture anyway :))))
Cheers, Igor

Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:21:12 +0200 от Tapio Minkkinen <tapio at uriah-heep.fi>:
>Thank you Martin for the info on correct spelling
>
>This list is very educational I must say. I am learning new English 
>words all the time. Bourish or boerish didn't give any results in 
>Google Translator. With boorish I got:
>"rough and bad-mannered; coarse.
>"boorish behavior"
>synonyymit: coarse, uncouth, rude, ill-bred, ill-mannered, 
>uncivilized, unrefined, rough, thuggish, loutish, oafish, lubberly, 
>lumpen, vulgar, unsavory, gross, brutish, Neanderthal, cloddish
>
>A while ago one person on the list who is living in China called me a 
>xenophobe. I could have been offended if I had known at the time what 
>the word meant. It was only later that I looked it up from a 
>dictionary and found out this was meant as an insult towards me.
>
>
>-- 
>TapioM.
>tapio at uriah-heep.fi
>
>www.uriah-heep.fi
>
>
>
>Lainaus Pete Wharton < heeplistpete at ntlworld.com >:
>
>> Ha ha ha, thanks Martin for taking on my pedantic, educational role while I
>> haven't had time to read posts on time :-) If this was Facebook, that would
>> be a definite like :-)
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf Of
>> Martin Turk
>> Sent: 19 November 2014 19:57
>> To:  heeplist at travellersintime.com
>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
>>
>> Gentlemen gentlemen please!
>>
>> Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out that
>> the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole' (although
>> the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues).
>> I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...
>>
>> Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.
>>
>> Waaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaha!
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
>>> From:  jamielaaugust at gmail.com
>>> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru;  heeplist at travellersintime.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
>>>
>>> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to
>>> this website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >  Merrick, I do.
>>> > From the Oxford dictionary:
>>> > call someone names 3
>>> > Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and
>>> > I was one of them
>>> >
>>> > You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your
>>> > regular mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not
>>> > care whether you meant anyone on the list, this is just plain
>>> > bourish regarding anyone who has an argumented opinion, as well as your
>> position in general.  And don't
>>> > you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC)
>> or (
>>> > SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if
>>> > you mention the addressee or not.
>>> > Cheers, Igor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) ?? merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>> > >
>>> > >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of
>>> > >critics,
>>> > criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a
>>> > any names attached to my comment?
>>> > >
>>> > >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
>>> > >
>>> > >MADMAN
>>> > >
>>> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
>>> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >---
>>> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>>> > >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist"
>>> > >< heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
>>> > >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
>>> > >
>>> > >Madman,
>>> > >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names
>>> > >and
>>> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
>>> > >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In
>>> > >my
>>> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain
>>> > things not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my
>>> > eyes, that is the difference between constructive and bourish. Of
>>> > course, I don't expect much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff
>>> > will be enough and only prove what I make of it.
>>> > >Igor
>>> > >
>>> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) ?? merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick.
>>> > >> There
>>> > is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know
>>> > the difference.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>MADMAN
>>> > >>
>>> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
>>> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >>----
>>> > >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>>> > >>To:  "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>> > >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
>>> > >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some
>>> > >> self-proclaimed
>>> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
>>> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or
>>> > just some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to
>>> > say. That is what people communicate for, if you don't like it -
>>> > well, just don't respond and try to be polite, at least.
>>> > >>Cheers, Igor
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) ?? merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>> > >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples
>>> > >>>and
>>> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it
>>> > is what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I
>>> > have a solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't
>> listen to it.
>>> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the
>>> > many different line ups and the many different albums to listen to
>>> > makes me smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my
>>> > self listening to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how
>>> > many self proclaimed critics there are , like their opinion is
>>> > somehow valid above all others. I will say it again, you don't like
>>> > the new heep don't listen to it. Like I need validation of what real
>>> > Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over opinionated critics in
>> every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter.
>>> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I
>>> > head off in the van.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>MADMAN
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>From: "Bob Winward" <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
>>> > >>>To: "heeplist" <  heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
>>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he
>>> > >>>seems to be saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down
>>> > >>>version of the 1972 era
>>> > Uriah
>>> > >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another
>>> > >>>recent post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah
>>> > >>>Heep is better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical
>>> > >>>question as I
>>> > doubt
>>> > >>>anyone will say that.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of
>>> > >>>Uriah
>>> > Heep
>>> > >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate
>>> > >>>the past, yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor
>>> > >>>such point into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or
>>> > >>>maybe a drop left, lol
>>> > >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down
>>> > >>>and
>>> > such
>>> > >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the
>>> > >>>past
>>> > and
>>> > >>>reject the now?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now
>>> > >>>that
>>> > does
>>> > >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As
>>> > >>>some of
>>> > us
>>> > >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current
>> band?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to
>>> > >>>figure
>>> > out why
>>> > >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a
>>> > >>>list
>>> > of
>>> > >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on
>>> > >>>hands and knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out
>>> > >>>"Thank you sir,
>>> > may I
>>> > >>>please have some more"?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that
>>> > >>>> as
>>> > Uriah Heep,
>>> > >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep
>>> > >>>> plays
>>> > pretty much
>>> > >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't
>>> > >>>> see
>>> > where they
>>> > >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they
>>> > >>>> are
>>> > made in
>>> > >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you
>>> > >>>> call
>>> > them. Gypsy
>>> > >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story
>> altogether.
>>> > >>>Cheers,
>>> > >>>> Igor
>
>
>
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