[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Shawn Mctopy shawn.mctopy at selu.edu
Wed Nov 19 17:49:15 EST 2014 

Here's a catchy tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clEcdZyeHC4


Saw this group open a show for *KISS* back in 1979.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  I believe, boarish also fits well in some cases :))))))) I enjoyed the
> spelling as well, welcome! :)))))))))))
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:57:26 +0000 от Martin Turk <martindturk at hotmail.com>:
> >Gentlemen gentlemen please!
> >
> >Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out
> that the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole'
> (although the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues).
> >I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...
> >
> >Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.
> >
> >Waaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaha!
> >
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
> >> From:  jamielaaugust at gmail.com
> >> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru;  heeplist at travellersintime.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
> >>
> >> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to
> this
> >> website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >  Merrick, I do.
> >> > From the Oxford dictionary:
> >> > call someone names 3
> >> > Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and
> I was
> >> > one of them
> >> >
> >> > You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular
> >> > mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care
> whether you
> >> > meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone
> who
> >> > has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And
> don't
> >> > you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED
> CRITIC) or (
> >> > SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you
> >> > mention the addressee or not.
> >> > Cheers, Igor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> >> > >
> >> > >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics,
> >> > criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any
> names
> >> > attached to my comment?
> >> > >
> >> > >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
> >> > >
> >> > >MADMAN
> >> > >
> >> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
> >> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> >> > >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <
> heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> >> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
> >> > >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
> >> > >
> >> > >Madman,
> >> > >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and
> >> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
> >> > >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In
> my
> >> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain
> things
> >> > not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that
> is the
> >> > difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect
> >> > much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only
> prove
> >> > what I make of it.
> >> > >Igor
> >> > >
> >> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick.
> There
> >> > is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the
> >> > difference.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>MADMAN
> >> > >>
> >> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
> >> >
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> >> > >>To:  "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> >> > >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
> >> > >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some
> self-proclaimed
> >> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
> >> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or
> just
> >> > some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say.
> That is
> >> > what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
> >> > respond and try to be polite, at least.
> >> > >>Cheers, Igor
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> >> > >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
> >> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it
> is
> >> > what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have
> a
> >> > solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen
> to it.
> >> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the
> many
> >> > different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me
> >> > smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self
> listening
> >> > to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self
> proclaimed
> >> > critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all
> others. I
> >> > will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it.
> Like I
> >> > need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always
> be over
> >> > opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't
> matter.
> >> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I
> head off
> >> > in the van.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>MADMAN
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>From: "Bob Winward" <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
> >> > >>>To: "heeplist" <  heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> >> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
> >> > >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems
> to be
> >> > >>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972
> era
> >> > Uriah
> >> > >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another
> recent
> >> > >>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah
> Heep is
> >> > >>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as
> I
> >> > doubt
> >> > >>>anyone will say that.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of
> Uriah
> >> > Heep
> >> > >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the
> past,
> >> > >>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such
> point
> >> > >>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop
> left, lol
> >> > >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down
> and
> >> > such
> >> > >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the
> past
> >> > and
> >> > >>>reject the now?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now
> that
> >> > does
> >> > >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As
> some of
> >> > us
> >> > >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current
> band?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to
> figure
> >> > out why
> >> > >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a
> list
> >> > of
> >> > >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on
> hands and
> >> > >>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you
> sir,
> >> > may I
> >> > >>>please have some more"?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
> >> > Uriah Heep,
> >> > >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
> >> > pretty much
> >> > >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't
> see
> >> > where they
> >> > >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are
> >> > made in
> >> > >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
> >> > them. Gypsy
> >> > >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story
> altogether.
> >> > >>>Cheers,
> >> > >>>> Igor
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
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