[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Igor Shveitser zlenko_iv at mail.ru
Wed Nov 19 16:08:26 EST 2014


 I believe, boarish also fits well in some cases :))))))) I enjoyed the spelling as well, welcome! :)))))))))))
Cheers, Igor


Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:57:26 +0000 от Martin Turk <martindturk at hotmail.com>:
>Gentlemen gentlemen please! 
>
>Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out that the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole' (although the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues). 
>I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...
>
>Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.
>
>Waaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaha!
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
>> From:  jamielaaugust at gmail.com
>> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru;  heeplist at travellersintime.com
>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
>> 
>> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to this
>> website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>> 
>> >  Merrick, I do.
>> > From the Oxford dictionary:
>> > call someone names 3
>> > Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and I was
>> > one of them
>> >
>> > You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular
>> > mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care whether you
>> > meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone who
>> > has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And don't
>> > you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or (
>> > SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you
>> > mention the addressee or not.
>> > Cheers, Igor
>> >
>> >
>> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>> > >
>> > >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics,
>> > criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any names
>> > attached to my comment?
>> > >
>> > >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
>> > >
>> > >MADMAN
>> > >
>> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
>> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> > >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
>> > >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
>> > >
>> > >Madman,
>> > >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and
>> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
>> > >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my
>> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things
>> > not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is the
>> > difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect
>> > much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only prove
>> > what I make of it.
>> > >Igor
>> > >
>> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>> > >>
>> > >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There
>> > is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the
>> > difference.
>> > >>
>> > >>MADMAN
>> > >>
>> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
>> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> > >>To:  "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>> > >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
>> > >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>> > >>
>> > >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed
>> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
>> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just
>> > some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That is
>> > what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
>> > respond and try to be polite, at least.
>> > >>Cheers, Igor
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>> > >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
>> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is
>> > what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a
>> > solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to it.
>> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many
>> > different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me
>> > smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening
>> > to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self proclaimed
>> > critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all others. I
>> > will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I
>> > need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over
>> > opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter.
>> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head off
>> > in the van.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>MADMAN
>> > >>>
>> > >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
>> > >>>
>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>
>> > >>>From: "Bob Winward" <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
>> > >>>To: "heeplist" <  heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to be
>> > >>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 era
>> > Uriah
>> > >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another recent
>> > >>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep is
>> > >>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as I
>> > doubt
>> > >>>anyone will say that.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah
>> > Heep
>> > >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the past,
>> > >>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such point
>> > >>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop left, lol
>> > >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and
>> > such
>> > >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the past
>> > and
>> > >>>reject the now?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now that
>> > does
>> > >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As some of
>> > us
>> > >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current band?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure
>> > out why
>> > >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a list
>> > of
>> > >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on hands and
>> > >>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you sir,
>> > may I
>> > >>>please have some more"?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
>> > Uriah Heep,
>> > >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
>> > pretty much
>> > >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't see
>> > where they
>> > >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are
>> > made in
>> > >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
>> > them. Gypsy
>> > >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story altogether.
>> > >>>Cheers,
>> > >>>> Igor
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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