[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Martin Turk martindturk at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 19 14:57:26 EST 2014 

Gentlemen gentlemen please! 

Whilst not wishing to be too pedantic I would however like to point out that the correct spelling of these words are 'boorish' and 'arsehole' (although the latter may be 'asshole' for our North American colleagues).  
I hope this clarifies any international misunderstanding...

Welcome Jamie.Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf.

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> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:51:51 +0000
> From: jamielaaugust at gmail.com
> To: zlenko_iv at mail.ru; heeplist at travellersintime.com
> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour
> 
> hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to this
> website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> >  Merrick, I do.
> > From the Oxford dictionary:
> > call someone names 3
> > Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and I was
> > one of them
> >
> > You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular
> > mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care whether you
> > meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone who
> > has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And don't
> > you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or (
> > SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you
> > mention the addressee or not.
> > Cheers, Igor
> >
> >
> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >
> > >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics,
> > criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any names
> > attached to my comment?
> > >
> > >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
> > >
> > >MADMAN
> > >
> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> > >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
> > >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
> > >
> > >Madman,
> > >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and
> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
> > >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my
> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things
> > not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is the
> > difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect
> > much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only prove
> > what I make of it.
> > >Igor
> > >
> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >>
> > >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There
> > is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the
> > difference.
> > >>
> > >>MADMAN
> > >>
> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> > >>To:  "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> > >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
> > >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> > >>
> > >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed
> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just
> > some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That is
> > what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
> > respond and try to be polite, at least.
> > >>Cheers, Igor
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is
> > what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a
> > solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to it.
> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many
> > different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me
> > smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening
> > to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self proclaimed
> > critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all others. I
> > will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I
> > need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over
> > opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter.
> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head off
> > in the van.
> > >>>
> > >>>MADMAN
> > >>>
> > >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>
> > >>>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net >
> > >>>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> > >>>
> > >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to be
> > >>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 era
> > Uriah
> > >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another recent
> > >>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
> > >>>
> > >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep is
> > >>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as I
> > doubt
> > >>>anyone will say that.
> > >>>
> > >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah
> > Heep
> > >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the past,
> > >>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
> > >>>
> > >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such point
> > >>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop left, lol
> > >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and
> > such
> > >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the past
> > and
> > >>>reject the now?
> > >>>
> > >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now that
> > does
> > >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As some of
> > us
> > >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
> > >>>
> > >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current band?
> > >>>
> > >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure
> > out why
> > >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a list
> > of
> > >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on hands and
> > >>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you sir,
> > may I
> > >>>please have some more"?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
> > Uriah Heep,
> > >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
> > pretty much
> > >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't see
> > where they
> > >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are
> > made in
> > >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
> > them. Gypsy
> > >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story altogether.
> > >>>Cheers,
> > >>>> Igor
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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