[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider

Thu Jun 12 11:10:59 EDT 2014

*'Logical Progression'* is a tune I like as well.

Here's a *Kickin*' live version for y'all to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8pDnEAstg4

*GEAUX HEEP!*

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Mac,
> You are right, the lyrics are not for teenagers, but do they really jump
> at you when you listen to the MUSIC? I think, even a primitive, plain,
> straightforward poem can't spoil a great song, and Heep had quite a record
> at succeeding with those: Look At Yourself, Easy Livin' and many more. They
> also had great songs that are not as anthemic as the mentioned but with
> great lyrics: Circle Of Hands, One Way Or Another, The Park.... My point
> was about the music, its spirit, its arrangements. For me only the music
> lights the fire within... or it doesn't.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:38:10 -0400 от Mac Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com
> >:
> >I don't like Sweet Sugar but I love Mistress of All Times and Logical
> >Progression. I certainly don't think the former two have any juvenile
> lyrics.
> >T-Bird  Angel does fall in that category, however. There's  an occasional
> >clunker.
> >
> >Mac
> >
> >At 07:55 PM 6/11/2014, you wrote:
> >>I'm one of the few, along with Rick that love
> >>Sweet Sugar! Stan > On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:28 PM,
> >>Rick Wilson < rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com >
> >>wrote: > > I disagree.  "Sweet Sugar" is an
> >>excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider >
> >>Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the
> >>classic line-ups. > > Rick > > > >> On Tue, Jun
> >>10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser
> >>< zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote: >> >> Mac, are you
> >>sure? Different world (1991) is full of that
> >>stuff, on the >> following albums I will easily
> >>find typical songs of the kind - Sweet >> sugar,
> >>is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical
> >>Progression? All of them >> have that 80-s poppy
> >>flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach
> >>in >> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this
> >>day in quite a lot of songs. I >> don't really
> >>mind because I grew up as a listener in the late
> >>80-s, but >> that is not "classic rock", it is
> >>quite unlike the way Heep made music in >> the
> >>early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North
> >>American frontman and you >> play "hard rock"
> >>(or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit
> >>glamish >> (like it was in the 80-s) are not
> >>that slim at all. And that is what >> current
> >>Heep are to me when they play the likes of
> >>T-Bird Angel or Golden >> Palace, or anything of
> >>that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they
> >>are >> real heavy rock to me when they do the
> >>likes of The Outsider or The Law. >> Hope you
> >>understand what I mean. >> Cheers, Igor >> >> >>
> >>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 Ð¾Ñ‚ Mac
> >>Steagall < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >>> : >>>
> >>No, not at all. This is atypical for post
> >>80s >>> Heep.  Bon Jovi has nothing to do with
> >>present day Heep. >>> >>> Mac >>> >>> At 05:10
> >>AM 6/10/2014, you wrote: >>>> When you have a
> >>band born in that era you >>>> can't be serious
> >>expecting anything different. >>>> That
> >>leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was >>>>
> >>typical and to some extent still is if we
> >>talk >>>> that genre. We must be grateful that
> >>Mick and >>>> Phil made a move forward at least
> >>musically. >>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun
> >>2014 21:21:59 >>>> -0400 Ã Â¾Ã‘‚ Mac
> >>Steagall >>>> <
> >>rsteagall at carolina.rr..com >: >Yes, I think
> >>this >>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The
> >>music is >>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are
> >>a bit >>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for >>>>
> >>me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you >>>>
> >>wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is
> >>Baby? >>>> Celestina?  This is about a girl,
> >>sort >>>> of >>like the skater in Cry
> >>Freedom.  Another >>>> strong performance from
> >>Davey, but >>overall, >>>> the least inspiring
> >>song for me on the cd.  I >>>> wonÃ‚Â¹t say it
> >>is a >>clunker, it is on par with >>>> WTS
> >>lighter songs and hasnÃ‚Â¹t done much for
> >>me >>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who
> >>is >>>> singing Celestina in the >>>>
> >>background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who
> >>has >>>> just had her eyes opened and got a
> >>new >>>> realisation >>on how Government really
> >>works in >>>> secret and so is just like a new
> >>born baby >>in >>>> her innocence. Now this
> >>innocent baby is going >>>> to use that
> >>knowledge to >>rock the >>>> establishment's
> >>foundation. >> >>Well that's my >>>> I
> >>interpretation of the imagery it invokes in >>>>
> >>my head >>>>
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