[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider

[Igor Shveitser]

 Let's agree to disagree then, Rick :) But I'd rather not have confused a typical Heep shuffle with something clearly from a different era not only rhythmically but regarding the mood in general as well. Mick Box' Uriah Heep has always been a decent band, but also has a very different musical chemistry within, and it can't be any other way bearing in mind who did the composing and singing in those two different bands from different eras. The name's the same, the rest... using Aesops tongue, it's your Imaginagiton sometimes that helps to fill in the blanks where necessary :)
Cheers, Igor


Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:28:30 +0800 от Rick Wilson <rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com>:
>I disagree.  "Sweet Sugar" is an excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the classic line-ups.
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>Rick
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>On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser  < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>> Mac, are you sure? Different world (1991) is full of that stuff, on the following albums I will easily find typical songs of the kind - Sweet sugar, is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical Progression? All of them have that 80-s poppy flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach in Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this day in quite a lot of songs. I don't really mind because I grew up as a listener in the late 80-s, but that is not "classic rock", it is quite unlike the way Heep made music in the early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North American frontman and you play "hard rock" (or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit glamish (like it was in the 80-s) are not that slim at all. And that is what current Heep are to me when they play the likes of T-Bird Angel or Golden Palace, or anything of that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they are real heavy rock to me when they do the likes of The Outsider or The Law. Hope you understand what I mean.
>>Cheers, Igor
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>>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 от Mac Steagall < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >:
>>>No, not at all. This is atypical for post 80s
>>>Heep.  Bon Jovi has nothing to do with present day Heep.
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>>>Mac
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>>>At 05:10 AM 6/10/2014, you wrote:
>>>>  When you have a band born in that era you
>>>> can't be serious expecting anything different.
>>>> That leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was
>>>> typical and to some extent still is if we talk
>>>> that genre. We must be grateful that Mick and
>>>> Phil made a move forward at least musically.
>>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:21:59
>>>> -0400 от Mac Steagall
>>>> <  rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >: >Yes, I think this
>>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The music is
>>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are a bit
>>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for
>>>> me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you
>>>> wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is Baby?
>>>> Celestina?  This is about a girl, sort
>>>> of >>like the skater in Cry Freedom.  Another
>>>> strong performance from Davey, but >>overall,
>>>> the least inspiring song for me on the cd.  I
>>>> won¹t say it is a >>clunker, it is on par with
>>>> WTS lighter songs and hasn¹t done much for me
>>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who is
>>>> singing Celestina in the
>>>> background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who has
>>>> just had her eyes opened and got a new
>>>> realisation >>on how Government really works in
>>>> secret and so is just like a new born baby >>in
>>>> her innocence. Now this innocent baby is going
>>>> to use that knowledge to >>rock the
>>>> establishment's foundation. >> >>Well that's my
>>>> I interpretation of the imagery it invokes in
>>>> my head
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