[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider

[Igor Shveitser]

 There's no argument or doubt about the quality of those songs, they are all good. My point was that they have more to do with the 80-s or 90-s, than the 70-s.
Cheers, Igor


Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:55:42 -0400 от Stan From Home <evens78 at chartermi.net>:
>I'm one of the few, along with Rick that love Sweet Sugar!
>
>Stan
>
>> On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Rick Wilson < rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com > wrote:
>> 
>> I disagree.  "Sweet Sugar" is an excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider
>> Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the classic line-ups.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mac, are you sure? Different world (1991) is full of that stuff, on the
>>> following albums I will easily find typical songs of the kind - Sweet
>>> sugar, is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical Progression? All of them
>>> have that 80-s poppy flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach in
>>> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this day in quite a lot of songs. I
>>> don't really mind because I grew up as a listener in the late 80-s, but
>>> that is not "classic rock", it is quite unlike the way Heep made music in
>>> the early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North American frontman and you
>>> play "hard rock" (or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit glamish
>>> (like it was in the 80-s) are not that slim at all. And that is what
>>> current Heep are to me when they play the likes of T-Bird Angel or Golden
>>> Palace, or anything of that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they are
>>> real heavy rock to me when they do the likes of The Outsider or The Law.
>>> Hope you understand what I mean.
>>> Cheers, Igor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 от Mac Steagall < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com
>>>> :
>>>> No, not at all. This is atypical for post 80s
>>>> Heep.  Bon Jovi has nothing to do with present day Heep.
>>>> 
>>>> Mac
>>>> 
>>>> At 05:10 AM 6/10/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> When you have a band born in that era you
>>>>> can't be serious expecting anything different.
>>>>> That leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was
>>>>> typical and to some extent still is if we talk
>>>>> that genre. We must be grateful that Mick and
>>>>> Phil made a move forward at least musically.
>>>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:21:59
>>>>> -0400 от Mac Steagall
>>>>> <  rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >: >Yes, I think this
>>>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The music is
>>>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are a bit
>>>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for
>>>>> me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you
>>>>> wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is Baby?
>>>>> Celestina?  This is about a girl, sort
>>>>> of >>like the skater in Cry Freedom.  Another
>>>>> strong performance from Davey, but >>overall,
>>>>> the least inspiring song for me on the cd.  I
>>>>> won¹t say it is a >>clunker, it is on par with
>>>>> WTS lighter songs and hasn¹t done much for me
>>>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who is
>>>>> singing Celestina in the
>>>>> background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who has
>>>>> just had her eyes opened and got a new
>>>>> realisation >>on how Government really works in
>>>>> secret and so is just like a new born baby >>in
>>>>> her innocence. Now this innocent baby is going
>>>>> to use that knowledge to >>rock the
>>>>> establishment's foundation. >> >>Well that's my
>>>>> I interpretation of the imagery it invokes in
>>>>> my head
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