[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider

Stan From Home evens78 at chartermi.net
Wed Jun 11 19:55:42 EDT 2014


I'm one of the few, along with Rick that love Sweet Sugar!

Stan

> On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Rick Wilson <rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I disagree.  "Sweet Sugar" is an excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider
> Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the classic line-ups.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>> 
>> Mac, are you sure? Different world (1991) is full of that stuff, on the
>> following albums I will easily find typical songs of the kind - Sweet
>> sugar, is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical Progression? All of them
>> have that 80-s poppy flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach in
>> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this day in quite a lot of songs. I
>> don't really mind because I grew up as a listener in the late 80-s, but
>> that is not "classic rock", it is quite unlike the way Heep made music in
>> the early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North American frontman and you
>> play "hard rock" (or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit glamish
>> (like it was in the 80-s) are not that slim at all. And that is what
>> current Heep are to me when they play the likes of T-Bird Angel or Golden
>> Palace, or anything of that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they are
>> real heavy rock to me when they do the likes of The Outsider or The Law.
>> Hope you understand what I mean.
>> Cheers, Igor
>> 
>> 
>> Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 от Mac Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com
>>> :
>>> No, not at all. This is atypical for post 80s
>>> Heep.  Bon Jovi has nothing to do with present day Heep.
>>> 
>>> Mac
>>> 
>>> At 05:10 AM 6/10/2014, you wrote:
>>>> When you have a band born in that era you
>>>> can't be serious expecting anything different.
>>>> That leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was
>>>> typical and to some extent still is if we talk
>>>> that genre. We must be grateful that Mick and
>>>> Phil made a move forward at least musically.
>>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:21:59
>>>> -0400 от Mac Steagall
>>>> < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >: >Yes, I think this
>>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The music is
>>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are a bit
>>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for
>>>> me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you
>>>> wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is Baby?
>>>> Celestina?  This is about a girl, sort
>>>> of >>like the skater in Cry Freedom.  Another
>>>> strong performance from Davey, but >>overall,
>>>> the least inspiring song for me on the cd.  I
>>>> won¹t say it is a >>clunker, it is on par with
>>>> WTS lighter songs and hasn¹t done much for me
>>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who is
>>>> singing Celestina in the
>>>> background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who has
>>>> just had her eyes opened and got a new
>>>> realisation >>on how Government really works in
>>>> secret and so is just like a new born baby >>in
>>>> her innocence. Now this innocent baby is going
>>>> to use that knowledge to >>rock the
>>>> establishment's foundation. >> >>Well that's my
>>>> I interpretation of the imagery it invokes in
>>>> my head
>>>> :-) >> >>Pete >> >> >>__________________________
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