[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider
Stan From Home
evens78 at chartermi.net
Wed Jun 11 20:42:21 EDT 2014
Got it, it is nice to have some really good Heep from so many decades! 5 decades of Heep, are you kidding me!!! How lucky we are to be Heepfans!!
Thanks
Stan Evens
Mears Group
> On Jun 11, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>
> There's no argument or doubt about the quality of those songs, they are all good. My point was that they have more to do with the 80-s or 90-s, than the 70-s.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:55:42 -0400 от Stan From Home <evens78 at chartermi.net>:
>> I'm one of the few, along with Rick that love Sweet Sugar!
>>
>> Stan
>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Rick Wilson < rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> I disagree. "Sweet Sugar" is an excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider
>>> Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the classic line-ups.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mac, are you sure? Different world (1991) is full of that stuff, on the
>>>> following albums I will easily find typical songs of the kind - Sweet
>>>> sugar, is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical Progression? All of them
>>>> have that 80-s poppy flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach in
>>>> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this day in quite a lot of songs. I
>>>> don't really mind because I grew up as a listener in the late 80-s, but
>>>> that is not "classic rock", it is quite unlike the way Heep made music in
>>>> the early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North American frontman and you
>>>> play "hard rock" (or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit glamish
>>>> (like it was in the 80-s) are not that slim at all. And that is what
>>>> current Heep are to me when they play the likes of T-Bird Angel or Golden
>>>> Palace, or anything of that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they are
>>>> real heavy rock to me when they do the likes of The Outsider or The Law.
>>>> Hope you understand what I mean.
>>>> Cheers, Igor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 от Mac Steagall < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com
>>>>> :
>>>>> No, not at all. This is atypical for post 80s
>>>>> Heep. Bon Jovi has nothing to do with present day Heep.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac
>>>>>
>>>>> At 05:10 AM 6/10/2014, you wrote:
>>>>>> When you have a band born in that era you
>>>>>> can't be serious expecting anything different.
>>>>>> That leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was
>>>>>> typical and to some extent still is if we talk
>>>>>> that genre. We must be grateful that Mick and
>>>>>> Phil made a move forward at least musically.
>>>>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:21:59
>>>>>> -0400 от Mac Steagall
>>>>>> < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >: >Yes, I think this
>>>>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The music is
>>>>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are a bit
>>>>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for
>>>>>> me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you
>>>>>> wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is Baby?
>>>>>> Celestina? This is about a girl, sort
>>>>>> of >>like the skater in Cry Freedom. Another
>>>>>> strong performance from Davey, but >>overall,
>>>>>> the least inspiring song for me on the cd. I
>>>>>> won¹t say it is a >>clunker, it is on par with
>>>>>> WTS lighter songs and hasn¹t done much for me
>>>>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who is
>>>>>> singing Celestina in the
>>>>>> background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who has
>>>>>> just had her eyes opened and got a new
>>>>>> realisation >>on how Government really works in
>>>>>> secret and so is just like a new born baby >>in
>>>>>> her innocence. Now this innocent baby is going
>>>>>> to use that knowledge to >>rock the
>>>>>> establishment's foundation. >> >>Well that's my
>>>>>> I interpretation of the imagery it invokes in
>>>>>> my head
>>>>>> :-) >> >>Pete >> >> >>__________________________
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