[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider
rsteagall
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Thu Jun 12 08:22:31 EDT 2014
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From: Mac Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com>
Date: 06/11/2014 11:38 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider
I don't like Sweet Sugar but I love Mistress of All Times and Logical
Progression. I certainly don't think the former two have any juvenile lyrics.
T-Bird Angel does fall in that category, however. There's an occasional
clunker.
Mac
At 07:55 PM 6/11/2014, you wrote:
>I'm one of the few, along with Rick that love
>Sweet Sugar! Stan > On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:28 PM,
>Rick Wilson <rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com>
>wrote: > > I disagree. "Sweet Sugar" is an
>excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider >
>Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the
>classic line-ups. > > Rick > > > >> On Tue, Jun
>10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser
><zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote: >> >> Mac, are you
>sure? Different world (1991) is full of that
>stuff, on the >> following albums I will easily
>find typical songs of the kind - Sweet >> sugar,
>is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical
>Progression? All of them >> have that 80-s poppy
>flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach
>in >> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this
>day in quite a lot of songs. I >> don't really
>mind because I grew up as a listener in the late
>80-s, but >> that is not "classic rock", it is
>quite unlike the way Heep made music in >> the
>early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North
>American frontman and you >> play "hard rock"
>(or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit
>glamish >> (like it was in the 80-s) are not
>that slim at all. And that is what >> current
>Heep are to me when they play the likes of
>T-Bird Angel or Golden >> Palace, or anything of
>that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they
>are >> real heavy rock to me when they do the
>likes of The Outsider or The Law. >> Hope you
>understand what I mean. >> Cheers, Igor >> >> >>
>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 Ð¾Ñ Mac
>Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >>> : >>>
>No, not at all. This is atypical for post
>80s >>> Heep. Bon Jovi has nothing to do with
>present day Heep. >>> >>> Mac >>> >>> At 05:10
>AM 6/10/2014, you wrote: >>>> When you have a
>band born in that era you >>>> can't be serious
>expecting anything different. >>>> That
>leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was >>>>
>typical and to some extent still is if we
>talk >>>> that genre. We must be grateful that
>Mick and >>>> Phil made a move forward at least
>musically. >>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun
>2014 21:21:59 >>>> -0400 þà Mac
>Steagall >>>> <
>rsteagall at carolina.rr..com >: >Yes, I think
>this >>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The
>music is >>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are
>a bit >>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for >>>>
>me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you >>>>
>wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is
>Baby? >>>> Celestina? This is about a girl,
>sort >>>> of >>like the skater in Cry
>Freedom. Another >>>> strong performance from
>Davey, but >>overall, >>>> the least inspiring
>song for me on the cd. I >>>> wonùt say it
>is a >>clunker, it is on par with >>>> WTS
>lighter songs and hasnùt done much for
>me >>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who
>is >>>> singing Celestina in the >>>>
>background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who
>has >>>> just had her eyes opened and got a
>new >>>> realisation >>on how Government really
>works in >>>> secret and so is just like a new
>born baby >>in >>>> her innocence. Now this
>innocent baby is going >>>> to use that
>knowledge to >>rock the >>>> establishment's
>foundation. >> >>Well that's my >>>> I
>interpretation of the imagery it invokes in >>>>
>my head >>>>
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