[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider

rsteagall rsteagall at carolina.rr.com
Thu Jun 12 08:22:31 EDT 2014


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From: Mac Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com> 
Date: 06/11/2014  11:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" <heeplist at travellersintime.com> 
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider 
 
I don't like Sweet Sugar but I love Mistress of All Times and Logical
Progression. I certainly don't think the former two have any juvenile lyrics.
T-Bird  Angel does fall in that category, however. There's  an occasional
clunker.

Mac

At 07:55 PM 6/11/2014, you wrote:
>I'm one of the few, along with Rick that love 
>Sweet Sugar! Stan > On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:28 PM, 
>Rick Wilson <rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com> 
>wrote: > > I disagree.  "Sweet Sugar" is an 
>excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider > 
>Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the 
>classic line-ups. > > Rick > > > >> On Tue, Jun 
>10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser 
><zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote: >> >> Mac, are you 
>sure? Different world (1991) is full of that 
>stuff, on the >> following albums I will easily 
>find typical songs of the kind - Sweet >> sugar, 
>is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical 
>Progression? All of them >> have that 80-s poppy 
>flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach 
>in >> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this 
>day in quite a lot of songs. I >> don't really 
>mind because I grew up as a listener in the late 
>80-s, but >> that is not "classic rock", it is 
>quite unlike the way Heep made music in >> the 
>early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North 
>American frontman and you >> play "hard rock" 
>(or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit 
>glamish >> (like it was in the 80-s) are not 
>that slim at all. And that is what >> current 
>Heep are to me when they play the likes of 
>T-Bird Angel or Golden >> Palace, or anything of 
>that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they 
>are >> real heavy rock to me when they do the 
>likes of The Outsider or The Law. >> Hope you 
>understand what I mean. >> Cheers, Igor >> >> >> 
>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 от Mac 
>Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >>> : >>> 
>No, not at all. This is atypical for post 
>80s >>> Heep.  Bon Jovi has nothing to do with 
>present day Heep. >>> >>> Mac >>> >>> At 05:10 
>AM 6/10/2014, you wrote: >>>> When you have a 
>band born in that era you >>>> can't be serious 
>expecting anything different. >>>> That 
>leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was >>>> 
>typical and to some extent still is if we 
>talk >>>> that genre. We must be grateful that 
>Mick and >>>> Phil made a move forward at least 
>musically. >>>> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun 
>2014 21:21:59 >>>> -0400 оÑ‚ Mac 
>Steagall >>>> < 
>rsteagall at carolina.rr..com >: >Yes, I think 
>this >>>> is the weakest song on the >album. The 
>music is >>>> pretty strong but the lyrics >are 
>a bit >>>> juvenile... a little to 80s for >>>> 
>me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you >>>> 
>wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is 
>Baby? >>>> Celestina?  This is about a girl, 
>sort >>>> of >>like the skater in Cry 
>Freedom.  Another >>>> strong performance from 
>Davey, but >>overall, >>>> the least inspiring 
>song for me on the cd.  I >>>> won¹t say it 
>is a >>clunker, it is on par with >>>> WTS 
>lighter songs and hasn¹t done much for 
>me >>>> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who 
>is >>>> singing Celestina in the >>>> 
>background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who 
>has >>>> just had her eyes opened and got a 
>new >>>> realisation >>on how Government really 
>works in >>>> secret and so is just like a new 
>born baby >>in >>>> her innocence. Now this 
>innocent baby is going >>>> to use that 
>knowledge to >>rock the >>>> establishment's 
>foundation. >> >>Well that's my >>>> I 
>interpretation of the imagery it invokes in >>>> 
>my head >>>> 
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