[Heeplist] Inside listening to Outsider

Rick Wilson rick.wilson.292768100 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 11 19:28:30 EDT 2014


I disagree.  "Sweet Sugar" is an excellent Rocker in the vein of a "Spider
Woman", "Blind Eye" or "Love Machine" from the classic line-ups.

Rick



On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Mac, are you sure? Different world (1991) is full of that stuff, on the
> following albums I will easily find typical songs of the kind - Sweet
> sugar, is it not? Mistress of all time? Logical Progression? All of them
> have that 80-s poppy flavour, and I can easily pinpoint that approach in
> Phil's and Mick's songwriting up to this day in quite a lot of songs. I
> don't really mind because I grew up as a listener in the late 80-s, but
> that is not "classic rock", it is quite unlike the way Heep made music in
> the early-mid 70-s. Plus, when you have a North American frontman and you
> play "hard rock" (or what they call it) chances of sounding a bit glamish
> (like it was in the 80-s) are not that slim at all. And that is what
> current Heep are to me when they play the likes of T-Bird Angel or Golden
> Palace, or anything of that "ballsless" stuff. On the other hand, they are
> real heavy rock to me when they do the likes of The Outsider or The Law.
> Hope you understand what I mean.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:33:45 -0400 от Mac Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com
> >:
> >No, not at all. This is atypical for post 80s
> >Heep.  Bon Jovi has nothing to do with present day Heep.
> >
> >Mac
> >
> >At 05:10 AM 6/10/2014, you wrote:
> >>  When you have a band born in that era you
> >> can't be serious expecting anything different.
> >> That leppardish/bonjovish kind of thing was
> >> typical and to some extent still is if we talk
> >> that genre. We must be grateful that Mick and
> >> Phil made a move forward at least musically.
> >> :)))) Cheers, Igor Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:21:59
> >> -0400 от Mac Steagall
> >> < rsteagall at carolina.rr.com >: >Yes, I think this
> >> is the weakest song on the >album. The music is
> >> pretty strong but the lyrics >are a bit
> >> juvenile... a little to 80s for
> >> me. > >Mac > >At 05:16 PM 6/9/2014, you
> >> wrote: > >>Rock the Foundation, Who is Baby?
> >> Celestina?  This is about a girl, sort
> >> of >>like the skater in Cry Freedom.  Another
> >> strong performance from Davey, but >>overall,
> >> the least inspiring song for me on the cd.  I
> >> won¹t say it is a >>clunker, it is on par with
> >> WTS lighter songs and hasn¹t done much for me
> >> yet >>except evoke curiosity as to who is
> >> singing Celestina in the
> >> background >> >> >>Baby is Celestine who has
> >> just had her eyes opened and got a new
> >> realisation >>on how Government really works in
> >> secret and so is just like a new born baby >>in
> >> her innocence. Now this innocent baby is going
> >> to use that knowledge to >>rock the
> >> establishment's foundation. >> >>Well that's my
> >> I interpretation of the imagery it invokes in
> >> my head
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