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[Shawn Mctopy]

There are Good Folks and Bad Folks ...

... Anywhere & Everywhere.

Just try, in the words of Bill & Ted, to - *"Be Excellent To One Another"*.

Pray for World Peace.

Take Care, Everybody.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  I join Shawn on this one, Claudia. However, I must admit censorship is
> not the so-called "Communist" regimes prerogative, and people in so-called
> "free" countries sometimes can't even imagine how biased is the information
> given to them by their respective mass media. And they don't have to block
> anything since generally the Western people hardly learn other languages
> and are easily made believe about anything they don't really care for.
> Like, for instance, bears in the streets of Moscow, vodka being drunken
> from samovars, the empire of evil, the necessity of bringing "Western
> democracy" to the rest of the world etc. No offence, just my experience
> from communicating with the English-speaking foreigners. Talking of China,
> I think it is a rather hypocrythical country: yes, they have the CPC at
> helm, but all their policy is about building a highly industrial capitalist
> empire which will be a real threat for the civilization in the very near
> future since the economical and technological potential is high but the
> people are poor and resources are few. And it is the rather poor East, with
> its special mentality, the value of human life there is much less than even
> in my native country which, in relation to the "civilized" world, hardly
> can boast the same level of respect to any personality. Still, while in
> Russia, Claudia wasn't harmed in any way, while in China it is sadly much
> different. Hope it all be sorted out and in the end you will recall only
> the good about your Eastern trip.
> Take care, Igor
>
>
> Среда, 13 ноября 2013, 10:13 -06:00 от Shawn Mctopy <shawn.mctopy at selu.edu
> >:
> >Claudia,
> >
> >Sad to read about your misfortunes in *China*, Claudia.
> >
> >A real sin and shame it is!
> >
> >:(
> >
> >*China* may block and/or censor web access, because the government in
> >*China* believes *Western* influences *(like Rock Music, etc. ...)* are a
> >corrupting factor to their citizens *(?)*.
> >
> >Communist regimes have a history of censoring information available to
> >their citizens, as a type of control. This is the reason I reckon that
> >*China* may block web/internet access.
> >
> >
> >Please take care, and be careful & cautious while on your world traveling
> >excursions.
> >
> >Here's to hoping that these misfortunes are over for you, and that the
> rest
> >of your traveling adventures are nice, safe, pleasant, and very enjoyable!
> >
> >Once more, take care & best of wishes to you, Claudia.
> >
> >
> >
> >*Shawn (Louisiana) -*
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Richard Pascoe < r.pascoe at telia.com >
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Claudia - sad to hear your dream-holiday is turning into your worst
> >> nightmare....
> >>
> >> Good Luck
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] Im Auftrag
> >> von Cláudia Leão
> >> Gesendet: den 13 november 2013 09:24
> >> An: Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
> >> Betreff: Re: [Heeplist] (no subject)
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> I can't ask all my family and friends to join me on Weibo, I NEED to
> >> connect to FB. I don't have a phone so the only way I have to keep in
> >> touch with my relatives is through it. And The Great Firewall is also
> >> blocking access to my wordpress blog.
> >>
> >> About the people I've mentioned that never heard about the Beatles -
> >> they were not teenagers, they were around my age, on their 40s.
> >>
> >> I'm getting crazy here. After 8 months traveling peacefully, in two days
> >> in China I was already ripped off four times (even in a convenience
> >> store) and yesterday I was victim of a scam and I lost almost 2000
> >> dollars. When I asked for help to the hotel's concierge to call the
> >> police he told me that that would be a waste of time since I can't PROVE
> >> what happened and I can't identify the ladies who stole me.
> >>
> >> I've been dreaming about visiting China since I started practicing kung
> >> fu more than 10 years ago, I was expecting that this would be the most
> >> wonderful part of my journey but today I feel miserable. I've spent the
> >> entire morning crying and I just don't wanna leave the hotel room.
> >> Do you know how it is to be 100% by yourself, without a connection with
> >> relatives and friends, and having to learn that you should not trust
> >> people...?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Claudia
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:12 PM, "Rick Wilson" < futureprimitive1 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> "
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Thanks for these videos Shawn!! Unfortunately here in China the access
> >> to YouTube, Facebook, Google, Skype is blocked...  (The Great
> >> Firewall!!) I'm trying to set up a VPN to cheat this prohibition and
> >> hopefully I'll be able to watch them soon! Can you believe that because
> >> of this stupid firewall the average Chinese people have no idea how The
> >> BEATLES or The ROLLING STONES look like?!? Yesterday I went to a Karaoke
> >> house and they do have a few Beatles' songs in their library, but
> >> performed by chinese artists... Crazy!!! Cheers! Claudia*"
> >>
> >> Excuse me, Claudia, but I have a bit of a problem with misinformation.
> >> I have lived in China for nearly nine years now, and I use Google and
> >> Skype daily without the use of a VPN service.  China has their very own
> >> versions of YOUTube and Facebook, so do not need the xenophobic American
> >> versions.  www.youku.com/ is the Chinese version of YOUTube, and there
> >> are no songs that are banned there, unlike in the West.  www.weibo.com/
> >> is the Chinese version of Facebook, where any and every citizen of China
> >> and the rest of the world are free to post tweets, etc. any time they
> >> like with some censorship or common sense (no nudity), but with no
> >> flaming or banning because they are Chinese unlike in the West.  Hell,
> >> it took eight years for the guys here at the list to actually accept
> >> that I was an American living in China and not Chinese to accept me
> >> here!  Yes, there are many cover versions of songs in the karaoke clubs,
> >> usually Russian or from Hong Kong, but any KTV, as the Chinese call
> >> them, has a wide selection of Western music to choose from.  I have
> >> sang, or tried to sing many a "Uriah Heep" song as well as tunes by
> >> "Metallica" and even "Slayer" (Much to the chagrin and shock of my
> >> Chinese students, I may add!  lol), all by the original artists
> >> uncensored.  Ask anyone today who is a teenager in Brazil, the U.S. or
> >> even in the U.K. who the "Beatles" and "Stones" are or what they look
> >> like, and YOU will get many a strange stare, not just in China.  One of
> >> my current students often wears a "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club
> >> Band" t-shirt to class, so I am quite certain that she knows who they
> >> are and what they look like; and, most any student of English can sing
> >> "Hey, Jude!", "Yesterday" or "Let It Be".  Try to remember that China
> >> has 1.6 billion people, there is more of everything here, and one cannot
> >> judge a country with a population so large on the reactions of one or
> >> two people. Lastly, I in no way wish to defend the Great Chinese
> >> Firewall, but they only wish to weed out sites that are harmful to the
> >> health of their citizens.  Yes, that is censorship, and, yes, that is
> >> not something that I would condone, however, when I see television shows
> >> like "Drugs, Inc.", and I see how drugs are controlling the lives of
> >> thousands of Americans, then perhaps a bit of self-censorship on the
> >> part of our government wouldn't hurt at all.  True freedom is not being
> >> able to do anything that YOU want anytime, but it is being able to have
> >> the means to ensure that all of us can enjoy life to the fullest aka the
> >> pursuit of happiness.  Please, remember that before spreading
> >> misinformation to others who have no idea. Thank YOU, kindly!
> >>
> >> Rick
> >> [?]
> >>
> >>
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