[Heeplist] Black Sabbath (one more time)

[Shawn Mctopy]

Hello,

Post-Ozzy era *SABBATH?*

I like *'LIVE EVIL'*, featuring *Ronnie James Dio* (R.I.P.) on vocals, and
I like the following *Tune* as well.

A *'Bluesy'* little number ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97rcMQDaokM

Shawn -

*(Louisiana)*




On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>
> If you are not deaf, anytime you compare old stuff to reatively new the
> latter pales - mainly 'cause it ain't that original and aging very rarely -
> unfortunately - improves the musician's skills, especially vocals. So don't
> you ever listen to classics prior to modern rock albums. :)))) Still, I am
> going to buy myself the album for the collection' sake at least. It is OK,
> at times even good, but the producer should have thought more thoroughly
> about the songs' order.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Пятница,  5 июля 2013, 9:36 -07:00 от "Todd Clark" <tuck0411 at gmail.com>:
> >I like Born Again, too.  It was a completely new sound for Sabbath, both
> >vocally and musically, and was heavy as all heck, plus the songs were
> good.
> >"Hotline" is still my favorite track off that album.
> >
> >Gave 13, disk 1, another listen last night and am happy to report my
> opinion
> >of it is improving.  The songs are starting to grab me and I'm
> appreciating
> >Ozzy's vocals, although the lyrics seem a bit lame in spots.  The
> >musicianship is top-notch, of course, so it comes down to the songs.
> >"Loner" stood out last night and the others are rising in estimation as
> >well, unlike the first listen when it all seemed rather dull.  I think the
> >mistake I made with the first listen was playing Master of Reality
> >immediately prior, so my expectations were raised.  I didn't do that last
> >night, so it seemed a bit more fresh.  Anyway, I think it'll be a keeper.
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jay Pearson
> >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:12 AM
> >To: Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
> >Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Black Sabbath (one more time)
> >
> >The only Iommi record I haven't enjoyed is his s/t solo album; I really
> only
> >liked the song with Ozzy, the rest sounded like Tony was trying to be too
> >modern rather than being Tony. The Devil You Know is about as good as
> >Dehumanizer to my ears, but not as good as Heaven & Hell or Mob Rules. I
> >love all the Tony Martin albums, although Forbidden is the weakest of the
> >lot (mainly cuz the production sucks), the rest are all superb. Of the
> Glenn
> >Hughes albums, I only love Seventh Star, the two collaborations I think
> are
> >about equal to The Devil You Know. And I may be the only one, but Born
> Again
> >is one of my favorite metal albums ever, a unique mix of classic Sabbath
> >sound with Gillan (the band) songwriting.
> >
> >The more I've listened, the more I'm convinced that 13 is one of the best
> >Sabbath/Iommi albums.
> >
> >Jay
> >sp - Phil Keaggy
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> >
> >
> >It depends on what kind of IOMMI MUSIC do you like more :) I must admit,
> as
> >much as I enjoyed Black Sabbath with Dio (original disks, they were
> dynamic,
> >inspired, philosophical - whatever, great overall!), so I was rather
> (well,
> >quite predictably though) disappointed with The Devil You Know for it
> lacked
> >almost all of the original ingredients being just plain dark and slow
> heavy
> >metal which I do not fancy much. It was even worse with Iommi solo for me
> -
> >so, "13" is at last the breath of fresh air. :)))
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