[Heeplist] Black Sabbath (one more time)

[Igor Shveitser]

If you are not deaf, anytime you compare old stuff to reatively new the latter pales - mainly 'cause it ain't that original and aging very rarely - unfortunately - improves the musician's skills, especially vocals. So don't you ever listen to classics prior to modern rock albums. :)))) Still, I am going to buy myself the album for the collection' sake at least. It is OK, at times even good, but the producer should have thought more thoroughly about the songs' order.
Cheers, Igor


Пятница,  5 июля 2013, 9:36 -07:00 от "Todd Clark" <tuck0411 at gmail.com>:
>I like Born Again, too.  It was a completely new sound for Sabbath, both 
>vocally and musically, and was heavy as all heck, plus the songs were good. 
>"Hotline" is still my favorite track off that album.
>
>Gave 13, disk 1, another listen last night and am happy to report my opinion 
>of it is improving.  The songs are starting to grab me and I'm appreciating 
>Ozzy's vocals, although the lyrics seem a bit lame in spots.  The 
>musicianship is top-notch, of course, so it comes down to the songs. 
>"Loner" stood out last night and the others are rising in estimation as 
>well, unlike the first listen when it all seemed rather dull.  I think the 
>mistake I made with the first listen was playing Master of Reality 
>immediately prior, so my expectations were raised.  I didn't do that last 
>night, so it seemed a bit more fresh.  Anyway, I think it'll be a keeper.
>
>Todd
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Jay Pearson
>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:12 AM
>To: Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Black Sabbath (one more time)
>
>The only Iommi record I haven't enjoyed is his s/t solo album; I really only 
>liked the song with Ozzy, the rest sounded like Tony was trying to be too 
>modern rather than being Tony. The Devil You Know is about as good as 
>Dehumanizer to my ears, but not as good as Heaven & Hell or Mob Rules. I 
>love all the Tony Martin albums, although Forbidden is the weakest of the 
>lot (mainly cuz the production sucks), the rest are all superb. Of the Glenn 
>Hughes albums, I only love Seventh Star, the two collaborations I think are 
>about equal to The Devil You Know. And I may be the only one, but Born Again 
>is one of my favorite metal albums ever, a unique mix of classic Sabbath 
>sound with Gillan (the band) songwriting.
>
>The more I've listened, the more I'm convinced that 13 is one of the best 
>Sabbath/Iommi albums.
>
>Jay
>sp - Phil Keaggy
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>
>
>It depends on what kind of IOMMI MUSIC do you like more :) I must admit, as 
>much as I enjoyed Black Sabbath with Dio (original disks, they were dynamic, 
>inspired, philosophical - whatever, great overall!), so I was rather (well, 
>quite predictably though) disappointed with The Devil You Know for it lacked 
>almost all of the original ingredients being just plain dark and slow heavy 
>metal which I do not fancy much. It was even worse with Iommi solo for me - 
>so, "13" is at last the breath of fresh air. :)))
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Igor Shveytser