[Heeplist] Black Sabbath (one more time)

[Todd Clark]

I like Born Again, too.  It was a completely new sound for Sabbath, both 
vocally and musically, and was heavy as all heck, plus the songs were good. 
"Hotline" is still my favorite track off that album.

Gave 13, disk 1, another listen last night and am happy to report my opinion 
of it is improving.  The songs are starting to grab me and I'm appreciating 
Ozzy's vocals, although the lyrics seem a bit lame in spots.  The 
musicianship is top-notch, of course, so it comes down to the songs. 
"Loner" stood out last night and the others are rising in estimation as 
well, unlike the first listen when it all seemed rather dull.  I think the 
mistake I made with the first listen was playing Master of Reality 
immediately prior, so my expectations were raised.  I didn't do that last 
night, so it seemed a bit more fresh.  Anyway, I think it'll be a keeper.

Todd

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jay Pearson
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:12 AM
To: Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Black Sabbath (one more time)

The only Iommi record I haven't enjoyed is his s/t solo album; I really only 
liked the song with Ozzy, the rest sounded like Tony was trying to be too 
modern rather than being Tony. The Devil You Know is about as good as 
Dehumanizer to my ears, but not as good as Heaven & Hell or Mob Rules. I 
love all the Tony Martin albums, although Forbidden is the weakest of the 
lot (mainly cuz the production sucks), the rest are all superb. Of the Glenn 
Hughes albums, I only love Seventh Star, the two collaborations I think are 
about equal to The Devil You Know. And I may be the only one, but Born Again 
is one of my favorite metal albums ever, a unique mix of classic Sabbath 
sound with Gillan (the band) songwriting.

The more I've listened, the more I'm convinced that 13 is one of the best 
Sabbath/Iommi albums.

Jay
sp - Phil Keaggy


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From: Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>


It depends on what kind of IOMMI MUSIC do you like more :) I must admit, as 
much as I enjoyed Black Sabbath with Dio (original disks, they were dynamic, 
inspired, philosophical - whatever, great overall!), so I was rather (well, 
quite predictably though) disappointed with The Devil You Know for it lacked 
almost all of the original ingredients being just plain dark and slow heavy 
metal which I do not fancy much. It was even worse with Iommi solo for me - 
so, "13" is at last the breath of fresh air. :)))
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