[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Shawn Mctopy shawn.mctopy at selu.edu
Wed Nov 19 13:30:14 EST 2014


For your listening & viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkHanF4v1w


:)


On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Kevin Milanowski <11scorpio06 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Igor...Ego...Hmmmm... Does anyone else see the similarity... Sorry to say
> it but anyone's opinion that differs from yours, you find an offhand way to
> insult without coming right out and cursing at them....which is really
> worse... We all have opinions and the right to express them and yours is
> not the only one that matters as so often you seem to think it is
> On Nov 18, 2014 3:01 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>
> >  Madman,
> > Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and
> > saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
> > What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my
> > opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things
> > not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is
> the
> > difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect
> > much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only prove
> > what I make of it.
> > Igor
> >
> > Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >
> > > ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There
> is
> > a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the
> > difference.
> > >
> > >MADMAN
> > >
> > >p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> > >To:  "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> > >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
> > >Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> > >
> > > Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed
> > critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
> > ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just
> > some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That
> is
> > what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
> > respond and try to be polite, at least.
> > >Cheers, Igor
> > >
> > >
> > >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> > >>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
> > oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is
> > what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a
> > solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to
> it.
> > For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many
> > different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me
> > smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening
> > to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self
> proclaimed
> > critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all
> others. I
> > will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I
> > need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be
> over
> > opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter.
> > With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head
> off
> > in the van.
> > >>
> > >>MADMAN
> > >>
> > >>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net >
> > >>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
> > >>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> > >>
> > >>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to
> be
> > >>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 era
> > Uriah
> > >>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another
> recent
> > >>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
> > >>
> > >>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep
> is
> > >>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as I
> > doubt
> > >>anyone will say that.
> > >>
> > >>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah
> > Heep
> > >>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the
> past,
> > >>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
> > >>
> > >>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such
> point
> > >>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop left,
> lol
> > >>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and
> > such
> > >>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the past
> > and
> > >>reject the now?
> > >>
> > >>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now that
> > does
> > >>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As some of
> > us
> > >>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
> > >>
> > >>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current
> band?
> > >>
> > >>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure
> out
> > why
> > >>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a list
> of
> > >>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on hands
> and
> > >>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you sir,
> may
> > I
> > >>please have some more"?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
> Uriah
> > Heep,
> > >>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
> > pretty much
> > >>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't see
> > where they
> > >>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are
> made
> > in
> > >>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
> them.
> > Gypsy
> > >>> was different, but that's another band and another story altogether.
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>> Igor
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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