[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

merrick3 at comcast.net merrick3 at comcast.net
Wed Nov 19 12:26:23 EST 2014 

well it aint the first time and it aint going to be the last time just saying hahahahahahahaha 
reminding people don't take things too serious 

MADMAN 

p.s. URIAH HEEP forever 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jamie August" <jamielaaugust at gmail.com> 
To: "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>, "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:51:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour 

hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to this 
website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous 


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote: 

> Merrick, I do. 
> From the Oxford dictionary: 
> call someone names 3 
> Insult someone verbally : a lot of people called him names and I was 
> one of them 
> 
> You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular 
> mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care whether you 
> meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone who 
> has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general. And don't 
> you try to pretend these words of yours - ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( 
> SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick - were not an insult no matter if you 
> mention the addressee or not. 
> Cheers, Igor 
> 
> 
> Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net: 
> > 
> >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics, 
> criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any names 
> attached to my comment? 
> > 
> >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,, 
> > 
> >MADMAN 
> > 
> >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer 
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> >From: "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> 
> >To: merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com> 
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM 
> >Subject: Criticism and bourish behaviour 
> > 
> >Madman, 
> >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and 
> saying how much you care about other persons' opinion. 
> >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my 
> opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things 
> not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is the 
> difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect 
> much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff will be enough and only prove 
> what I make of it. 
> >Igor 
> > 
> >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net: 
> >> 
> >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There 
> is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the 
> difference. 
> >> 
> >>MADMAN 
> >> 
> >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever 
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> >>From: "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> 
> >>To: "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com> 
> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM 
> >>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation) 
> >> 
> >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed 
> critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician, 
> ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just 
> some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That is 
> what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't 
> respond and try to be polite, at least. 
> >>Cheers, Igor 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net: 
> >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and 
> oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is 
> what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a 
> solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to it. 
> For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many 
> different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me 
> smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening 
> to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self proclaimed 
> critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all others. I 
> will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I 
> need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over 
> opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter. 
> With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head off 
> in the van. 
> >>> 
> >>>MADMAN 
> >>> 
> >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER 
> >>> 
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> 
> >>>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net > 
> >>>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com > 
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM 
> >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation) 
> >>> 
> >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to be 
> >>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 era 
> Uriah 
> >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another recent 
> >>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone. 
> >>> 
> >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep is 
> >>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as I 
> doubt 
> >>>anyone will say that. 
> >>> 
> >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah 
> Heep 
> >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the past, 
> >>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full) 
> >>> 
> >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such point 
> >>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop left, lol 
> >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and 
> such 
> >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the past 
> and 
> >>>reject the now? 
> >>> 
> >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now that 
> does 
> >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As some of 
> us 
> >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list? 
> >>> 
> >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current band? 
> >>> 
> >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure 
> out why 
> >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a list 
> of 
> >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on hands and 
> >>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you sir, 
> may I 
> >>>please have some more"? 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as 
> Uriah Heep, 
> >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays 
> pretty much 
> >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't see 
> where they 
> >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are 
> made in 
> >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call 
> them. Gypsy 
> >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story altogether. 
> >>>Cheers, 
> >>>> Igor 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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