[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Wed Nov 19 07:51:51 EST 2014

hi my name is jamie and im a 3rd generation URIAH HEEP fan im new to this
website and i agree about the boreish bahavour is outragous

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Merrick, I do.
> From the Oxford dictionary:
> call someone names 3
> Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and I was
> one of them
>
> You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular
> mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care whether you
> meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone who
> has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And don't
> you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or (
> SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you
> mention the addressee or not.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> >
> >Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics,
> criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any names
> attached to my comment?
> >
> >Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
> >
> >MADMAN
> >
> >p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> >To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> >Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
> >Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
> >
> >Madman,
> >Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and
> saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
> >What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my
> opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things
> not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is the
> difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect
> much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only prove
> what I make of it.
> >Igor
> >
> >Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> >>
> >> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There
> is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the
> difference.
> >>
> >>MADMAN
> >>
> >>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> >>To:  "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> >>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
> >>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> >>
> >> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed
> critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician,
> ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just
> some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That is
> what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't
> respond and try to be polite, at least.
> >>Cheers, Igor
> >>
> >>
> >>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
> >>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and
> oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is
> what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a
> solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to it.
> For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many
> different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me
> smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening
> to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self proclaimed
> critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all others. I
> will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I
> need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over
> opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter.
> With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head off
> in the van.
> >>>
> >>>MADMAN
> >>>
> >>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>
> >>>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net >
> >>>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
> >>>
> >>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to be
> >>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 era
> Uriah
> >>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another recent
> >>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
> >>>
> >>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep is
> >>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as I
> doubt
> >>>anyone will say that.
> >>>
> >>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah
> Heep
> >>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the past,
> >>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
> >>>
> >>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such point
> >>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop left, lol
> >>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and
> such
> >>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the past
> and
> >>>reject the now?
> >>>
> >>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now that
> does
> >>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As some of
> us
> >>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
> >>>
> >>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current band?
> >>>
> >>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure
> out why
> >>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a list
> of
> >>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on hands and
> >>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you sir,
> may I
> >>>please have some more"?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as
> Uriah Heep,
> >>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays
> pretty much
> >>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't see
> where they
> >>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are
> made in
> >>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call
> them. Gypsy
> >>>> was different, but that's another band and another story altogether.
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>> Igor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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