[Heeplist] 'Historical Content' or a Cover?

Igor Shveitser zlenko_iv at mail.ru
Wed Nov 12 20:49:25 EST 2014


 Nice sense of humour here, Dale  :) However, in reality Floyd without Waters was not much less Floyd than the last ones of the classic era (until 1983), just a bit different. Losing Hensley and Byron for Heep... well, imagine for a moment, that there would have been a Floyd of Mason and (perhaps) Wright - than we'd have a fair parallel with modern Heep.
Cheers, Igor


Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:27:08 -0800 от Dale Fredericks <dalhel at sbcglobal.net>:
>I have a great idea……….why don’t we change the name of the Heeplist to “The Heep Cover Band List”………that would solve everything. Maybe the comparisons of “classic Heep and the Box Band Heep would cease.
>I just bought the new Pink Floyd……..so should I re-phrase that because there is only one original member left (remember David Gilmour wasn’t an original member) and Richard Wright passed away last year. Damn !!!!! I thought I was buying REAL Pink Floyd !!! Man, was I fooled.
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>Dale
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>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:37 AM, I.barnes3 < I.barnes3 at ntlworld.com > wrote:
>> 
>> Bob, I would pay good money to see that setlist. You have great taste.
>> 
>> Iain 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Bob Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net > 
>> Date:11/11/2014  13:14  (GMT+00:00) 
>> To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" < heeplist at travellersintime.com > 
>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] 'Historical Content' or a Cover? 
>> 
>> I am not sure how you agree with Igor.  He says they are a cover band now,
>> are not the classic Heep and takes delight raining on our parade.  As I
>> stated previously, Heep has had so many personnel changes even in first 6
>> years,  but what other bands have not, especially after 45 years.  The band
>> that did the debut lp and the band that did Demons & Wizards were 2
>> different bands as well.
>> 
>> Foreigner is still touring with one original member, The Who are down to 2,
>> I could go on and on.  Yet those touring icons have not put out any new
>> music in a while? 60's band The Duprees are still touring, with no original
>> members.  (anyone remember You Belong to Me?)
>> 
>> I am sick of Free N Easy, just like Return to Fantasy and Lady in Black.  I
>> agree they are played differently than the originals.  Heep has so many
>> great new songs since 1986.  They should just play Gypsy, July Morning, Easy
>> Living and Lady in Black (to avoid riots in Germany)  The rest of the set
>> list should be the new classics.  Between Two Worlds, Love in Silence, Cry
>> Freedom, What Kind of god, Overload, Angels Walk with You, War child,
>> Shadow, Can Anybody Help Me, Trail of Diamonds, Kiss of Freedom, Kiss the
>> Rainbow, Jessie
>> 
>> If I say "All Mick Box is good Mick Box" would that make some happy?
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/10/14 8:28 PM, "Scott Manion" < scottmanion at earthlink.net > wrote:
>> 
>>> Agree with Igor and after a year plus of not posting,  his comments drew me
>>> in!  Especially with a US Tour on the horizon. 
>> Heep plays what I would call
>>> the "Historical Content" out of necessity in some countries (try not ending a
>>> set with 'Lady In Black' in Germany and there's bound to be a riot) out of
>>> tradition in others, and out of a perceived 'what they would probably like to
>>> hear' in yet others. 
>> 
>> As far as the US is concerned, especially for the
>>> majority of folks who might show up at a Heep Show now, you'd have them
>>> covered with Stealin', and Easy Livin,'  two songs that are still a mainstay
>>> to every classic rock station across the US.  And then the set list could be
>>> totally open!  This would be ideal for the hardcore of us who are hoping for
>>> new and rarely played gems...Dreammare, Sea of Light, Footprints in the Snow,
>>> Hanging Tree, etc. 
>> 
>> The UK would have a completely different story and would
>>> likely include what most of us would feel to be the real 'heart' of the band's
>>> content...July Morning and the more enduring classics. 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the
>>> set list is still, for Heep, a concensus or a global 'best of' plus the new
>>> ones tossed in.  That does not for a moment categorize Heep as an oldies cover
>>> band yet I can understand the lament of list members who are likely to see
>>> every show within driving or flying distance. 
>> 
>> I can do with giving Free &
>>> Easy a break but would not want to see Rainbow Demon removed...and that's just
>>> my own selfish wish.  I' can hear multiple list members growning. 
>> 
>> I think
>>> what I'd like to see is Heep have a rotation of songs that could be
>>> interchanged.  Not Greatful Dead like sets that change in their entirety on a
>>> nightly basis but a group of songs that might change from show to show. 
>> 
>> The
>>> band would probably be energized by 'calling an audible' (US Football
>>> reference) and changing the play list on the fly.  At this point in their
>>> career they should not be worried about the risk of working on the fly...they
>>> have earned that right and their audience would find it downright
>>> energizing!
>> 
>> Just my Point of View!
>> What do others think?
>> Scott
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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