[Heeplist] Outsider revisited

Tue Nov 11 14:11:27 EST 2014

Think that reminder came from Mad man
On Nov 11, 2014 1:10 PM, "Terje Pedersen" <terjped at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Enjoying my evening coffe listening to Spice, thanks for reminding me
> Kevin ;-)
>
> Terje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf
> Of Igor Shveitser
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09 PM
> To: Don Malecic; Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time); Don Malecic;
> Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Outsider revisited
>
>  Guys and gals!
> I hope, all of our little chat won't spoil nobody's enjoying his morning
> coffee or whatever else :))) Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:05:00 -0800 от Don Malecic <docofun at gmail.com>:
> >Hi Igor,
> >Sorry I was just out chopping some wood for my wood stove :))) Ok I see
> >where your going with your point.
> >Guys, sorry and gals!
> >Enjoying my coffee reading the list this morning!
> >Great Theatre! :)))
> >I wonder if MADMAN is enjoying his coffee!
> >D
> >
> >On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>It's not about "penned by Hensley" or not, it's more about "when" and
> which musicians took part in the recording/performance. That's why Between
> Two Worlds ( a good song indeed for 1998) hardly will make it to the
> compilation of the very best of Heep/Heep-related and neither will do Ken's
> songs of that time. Different era, different chemistry, much less original.
> I will give you one example: BTW starts with keyboard intro which quite
> reminds of something from... The Gods (!), and another great track from the
> album, Shelter from... yes, the Rain (got one more song dedicated to that
> weather condition!!!!) :)))) suspiciously reminds of smth made by Wishbone
> Ash plus ... Weep In Silence. I hope, you got my point.
> >>Cheers, Igor
> >>
> >>
> >>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:27:07 -0800 от Don Malecic < docofun at gmail.com >:
> >>>I agree with you Bob, Heep has written a lot of great music without
> >>>the pen of Hensley , From SOL to Outsider.
> >>>Yes all Heep is good Heep, I won't dare mention the C word! :))) Yes
> >>>and all box is good Box works for me as well .
> >>>D
> >>>
> >>>On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Bob Winward <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You can say what ever you want
> >>>> It still says Uriah Heep on the Outsider and not one of them is a
> cover.
> >>>> Even in 1972, it was not the same Heep that started in 1970. They
> >>>> had their 3rd bass player and 5th? Drummer by then.  By 1977 they
> >>>> only had 2 original members.  Mick does have legal rights to the
> >>>> name, the band has evolved and they continually put out new music.
> >>>> Some of this new music is as good as the old stuff.  Between 2
> >>>> Worlds is one of Heep’s geates songs that Hensley did not pen.
> >>>> Shaw and Lanzon will have 30 years in the band after next year.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since they continue to put out new music, we can celebrate what
> >>>> was, but embrace what is!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/10/14 12:33 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> >>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Bob,
> >>>> > I respect any opinion, but see it myself  from quite a different
> angle:
> >>>> Phil
> >>>> > Lanzon, Bernie Shaw, Russel Gilbrook, Davey Rimmer plus Mick Box
> >>>> > mostly
> >>>> play
> >>>> > the songs, initially written and performed live by Hensley,
> >>>> > Byron, Box
> >>>> etc.. -
> >>>> > I intentionally, on purpose, name the former band members in the
> >>>> > order of their contribution to the music of classic Heep. The
> >>>> > only similarity
> >>>> between
> >>>> > the bands is the name plus the figure of lead guitarist, who is,
> >>>> > of
> >>>> course,
> >>>> > still great and perhaps even better than ever... but we all know
> >>>> > it ain't enough to even come close to "that" Heep from all points
> >>>> > of view. And I wouldn't compare the two: this band, as I stated
> >>>> > many times before, has
> >>>> its
> >>>> > own unique style; it shines, regarding studio work, on the modern
> >>>> > rock
> >>>> skies
> >>>> > no worse than the legend did in the 70-s.  But when it comes to
> >>>> > live
> >>>> concerts,
> >>>> > modern Heep, - perhaps, not intentionally but still it's a fact -
> >>>> competes
> >>>> > with that band playing live the likes of Gypsy, July Morning etc.
> >>>> > and,
> >>>> in my
> >>>> > eyes loses in almost every way. Having Lee and Trevor it was a
> >>>> > bit
> >>>> different
> >>>> > 'cause they knew better how to play Heep music properly. Having Mr.
> >>>> Lawton on
> >>>> > stage made it even better - John is the singer, I tell ya' :)))
> >>>> > Having
> >>>> said
> >>>> > that, I still enjoy the Outsider and would love to see it played
> >>>> > live in
> >>>> all
> >>>> > it entirety while most of the classics should be left out for
> >>>> > they truly
> >>>> do
> >>>> > not belong to this band and in their "reading" the songs are
> >>>> > nothing but covers really.
> >>>> > Cheers, Igor
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:07:12 -0500 от Bob Winward <
> >>>> > uriahheep at comcast.net
> >>>> <javascript:;>>:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I do not agree, a cover band, covers the material of others.
> >>>> >> Uriah Heep continues to produce fresh new vibrant music!!  They
> >>>> >> may not sound as
> >>>> great
> >>>> >> as 70's Heep but they have evolved and from what I see, Outsider
> >>>> >> is
> >>>> highly
> >>>> >> enjoyed and accepted by most fans.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> In contrast, you could take Styx, an oldies cover band who plays
> >>>> >> old
> >>>> songs.
> >>>> >> Their last cd was a cd of covers right?  No new music.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Bob "All Heep is good Heep" Winward
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 11/10/14 7:51 AM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> >>>> >> <javascript:;> < /compose?To= zlenko_iv at mail.ru <javascript:;>> >
> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> >   With him they finally turned into what Heep became ages
> >>>> >>> >ago - a very professional cover band with one original member.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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