[Heeplist] Outsider revisited

Kevin Milanowski 11scorpio06 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 14:09:51 EST 2014


Thank you... that was much easier than I thought.... I'll let you know what
I think when I get home and have a chance to sit down and listen
On Nov 11, 2014 1:06 PM, "Terje Pedersen" <terjped at hotmail.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplziHCseAo
>
> Enjoy Kevin
>
>
> Terje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf
> Of Kevin Milanowski
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Outsider revisited
>
> Sadly I've never been able to find any spice recordings would be nice to
> hear at some point On Nov 11, 2014 1:02 PM, <merrick3 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > HEY im listening to SPICE AH AH AH
> >
> > MADMAN
> >
> > p.s. Uriah Heep forever
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> > To: "Bob Winward" <uriahheep at comcast.net>, "heeplist" <
> > heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:12:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Outsider revisited
> >
> >
> > It seems you haven't read properly or understood, what I had written
> > before, if you come to such conclusions, Bob. I never said anything
> > like that. Once again, my point of view, summarized: Uriah Heep was
> > then, Mick Box is very good, some of their songs are solid rock
> > numbers of today, I even love some of them and would love to see more
> > live, but I don't like them play classic Heep (at least, most of the
> > Byron era), and when they do those, they turn into cover band. Now, I
> hope, we have it clarified.
> > Cheers, Igor
> >
> > Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:56:46 -0500 от Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net>:
> > >I thought you were the one comparing and saying they are no good
> > >anymore It just feels like you keep chopping the same wood and
> > >yelling Heep sucks, Heep sucks (Mick Box's Heep that is) :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >On 11/11/14 8:40 AM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bob,
> > >I don't want to be rude, but we have quite a rude saying here, in
> > >> Russia, which goes like this: "There's a word "dick" written on
> > >> your wood-shed, still inside you have only fire-wood".
> > >> :))))))))))))) Legal
> > rights
> > >> have nothing to do, - as we all know, - with way more thin things
> > >> like chemistry, energy, etc. And, if I were you, I wouldn't go into
> > >> all that historical details and comparisons. 30 years - who cares?
> > >> Classic Heep
> > spent
> > >> together only 6 and a half - but made almost all that is real Heep
> > >> to
> > me and
> > >> most of us. Music is all that matters, and this band has little if
> > anything in
> > >> common with the classic Heep. Still I like the Outsider, but
> > >> wouldn't
> > go into
> > >> comparisons with Heep.
> > >Cheers, Igor
> > >
> > >
> > >Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:42:44 -0500 от Bob
> > >> Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net >:
> > >>You can say what ever you want
> > >>It still
> > >> says Uriah Heep on the Outsider and not one of them is a cover.
> > >>Even in 1972,
> > >> it was not the same Heep that started in 1970. They had their 3rd
> > >>bass player  and 5th? Drummer by then. By 1977 they only had 2
> > >>original members. Mick  does have legal rights to the name, the band
> > >>has evolved and they continually  put out new music. Some of this
> > >>new music is as good as the old stuff.
> > >> Between 2 Worlds is one of Heep’s geates songs that Hensley did not
> > >>pen.
> > >> Shaw and Lanzon will have 30 years in the band after next year.
> > >>
> > >>Since they
> > >> continue to put out new music, we can celebrate what was, but
> > >>embrace what  is!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On 11/10/14 12:33 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Bob,
> > >>> I respect any opinion, but see it myself from quite a
> > >> different angle: Phil
> > >>> Lanzon, Bernie Shaw, Russel Gilbrook, Davey Rimmer
> > >> plus Mick Box mostly play
> > >>> the songs, initially written and performed live
> > >> by Hensley, Byron, Box etc.. -
> > >>> I intentionally, on purpose, name the former
> > >> band members in the order of
> > >>> their contribution to the music of classic
> > >> Heep. The only similarity between
> > >>> the bands is the name plus the figure of
> > >> lead guitarist, who is, of course,
> > >>> still great and perhaps even better than
> > >> ever... but we all know it ain't
> > >>> enough to even come close to "that" Heep
> > >> from all points of view. And I
> > >>> wouldn't compare the two: this band, as I
> > >> stated many times before, has its
> > >>> own unique style; it shines, regarding
> > >> studio work, on the modern rock skies
> > >>> no worse than the legend did in the
> > >> 70-s. But when it comes to live concerts,
> > >>> modern Heep, - perhaps, not
> > >> intentionally but still it's a fact - competes
> > >>> with that band playing live
> > >> the likes of Gypsy, July Morning etc. and, in my
> > >>> eyes loses in almost every
> > >> way. Having Lee and Trevor it was a bit different
> > >>> 'cause they knew better
> > >> how to play Heep music properly. Having Mr. Lawton on
> > >>> stage made it even
> > >> better - John is the singer, I tell ya' :))) Having said
> > >>> that, I still
> > >> enjoy the Outsider and would love to see it played live in all
> > >>> it entirety
> > >> while most of the classics should be left out for they truly do
> > >>> not belong
> > >> to this band and in their "reading" the songs are nothing but
> > >>> covers
> > >> really.
> > >>> Cheers, Igor
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:07:12 -0500 от Bob
> > >> Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net >:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I do not agree, a cover band,
> > >> covers the material of others. Uriah Heep
> > >>>> continues to produce fresh new
> > >> vibrant music!! They may not sound as great
> > >>>> as 70's Heep but they have
> > >> evolved and from what I see, Outsider is highly
> > >>>> enjoyed and accepted by
> > >> most fans.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In contrast, you could take Styx, an oldies cover band who
> > >> plays old songs.
> > >>>> Their last cd was a cd of covers right? No new
> > >> music.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bob "All Heep is good Heep" Winward
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On
> > >> 11/10/14 7:51 AM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> > >>>> <
> > >> /compose?To=zlenko_iv at mail.ru > > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> > With him they finally
> > >> turned into what Heep became ages
> > >>>>> > ago - a very professional cover band
> > >> with one original member.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
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