[Heeplist] Outsider revisited

Don Malecic docofun at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 12:27:07 EST 2014


I agree with you Bob, Heep has written a lot of great music without the pen
of Hensley ,
>From SOL to Outsider.
Yes all Heep is good Heep, I won't dare mention the C word! :)))
Yes and all box is good Box works for me as well .
D

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net> wrote:

> You can say what ever you want
> It still says Uriah Heep on the Outsider and not one of them is a cover.
> Even in 1972, it was not the same Heep that started in 1970. They had their
> 3rd bass player and 5th? Drummer by then.  By 1977 they only had 2 original
> members.  Mick does have legal rights to the name, the band has evolved and
> they continually put out new music.  Some of this new music is as good as
> the old stuff.  Between 2 Worlds is one of Heep’s geates songs that Hensley
> did not pen.  Shaw and Lanzon will have 30 years in the band after next
> year.
>
> Since they continue to put out new music, we can celebrate what was, but
> embrace what is!
>
>
> On 11/10/14 12:33 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Bob,
> > I respect any opinion, but see it myself  from quite a different angle:
> Phil
> > Lanzon, Bernie Shaw, Russel Gilbrook, Davey Rimmer plus Mick Box mostly
> play
> > the songs, initially written and performed live by Hensley, Byron, Box
> etc.. -
> > I intentionally, on purpose, name the former band members in the order of
> > their contribution to the music of classic Heep. The only similarity
> between
> > the bands is the name plus the figure of lead guitarist, who is, of
> course,
> > still great and perhaps even better than ever... but we all know it ain't
> > enough to even come close to "that" Heep from all points of view. And I
> > wouldn't compare the two: this band, as I stated many times before, has
> its
> > own unique style; it shines, regarding studio work, on the modern rock
> skies
> > no worse than the legend did in the 70-s.  But when it comes to live
> concerts,
> > modern Heep, - perhaps, not intentionally but still it's a fact -
> competes
> > with that band playing live the likes of Gypsy, July Morning etc. and,
> in my
> > eyes loses in almost every way. Having Lee and Trevor it was a bit
> different
> > 'cause they knew better how to play Heep music properly. Having Mr.
> Lawton on
> > stage made it even better - John is the singer, I tell ya' :))) Having
> said
> > that, I still enjoy the Outsider and would love to see it played live in
> all
> > it entirety while most of the classics should be left out for they truly
> do
> > not belong to this band and in their "reading" the songs are nothing but
> > covers really.
> > Cheers, Igor
> >
> >
> > Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:07:12 -0500 от Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net
> <javascript:;>>:
> >>
> >>
> >> I do not agree, a cover band, covers the material of others.  Uriah Heep
> >> continues to produce fresh new vibrant music!!  They may not sound as
> great
> >> as 70's Heep but they have evolved and from what I see, Outsider is
> highly
> >> enjoyed and accepted by most fans.
> >>
> >> In contrast, you could take Styx, an oldies cover band who plays old
> songs.
> >> Their last cd was a cd of covers right?  No new music.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob "All Heep is good Heep" Winward
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/10/14 7:51 AM, "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru <javascript:;>
> >> </compose?To=zlenko_iv at mail.ru <javascript:;>> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> >   With him they finally turned into what Heep became ages
> >>> > ago - a very professional cover band with one original member.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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