[Heeplist] Outsider revisited

Tue Nov 11 14:03:39 EST 2014

Sadly I've never been able to find any spice recordings would be nice to
hear at some point
On Nov 11, 2014 1:02 PM, <merrick3 at comcast.net> wrote:

> HEY im listening to SPICE AH AH AH
>
> MADMAN
>
> p.s. Uriah Heep forever
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
> To: "Bob Winward" <uriahheep at comcast.net>, "heeplist" <
> heeplist at travellersintime.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:12:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Outsider revisited
>
>
> It seems you haven't read properly or understood, what I had written
> before, if you come to such conclusions, Bob. I never said anything like
> that. Once again, my point of view, summarized: Uriah Heep was then, Mick
> Box is very good, some of their songs are solid rock numbers of today, I
> even love some of them and would love to see more live, but I don't like
> them play classic Heep (at least, most of the Byron era), and when they do
> those, they turn into cover band. Now, I hope, we have it clarified.
> Cheers, Igor
>
> Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:56:46 -0500 от Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net>:
> >I thought you were the one comparing and saying they are no good anymore
> >It just feels like you keep chopping the same wood and yelling Heep sucks,
> >Heep sucks (Mick Box's Heep that is) :-)
> >
> >
> >On 11/11/14 8:40 AM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> >
> >> Bob,
> >I don't want to be rude, but we have quite a rude saying here, in
> >> Russia, which goes like this: "There's a word "dick" written on your
> >> wood-shed, still inside you have only fire-wood". :))))))))))))) Legal
> rights
> >> have nothing to do, - as we all know, - with way more thin things like
> >> chemistry, energy, etc. And, if I were you, I wouldn't go into all that
> >> historical details and comparisons. 30 years - who cares? Classic Heep
> spent
> >> together only 6 and a half - but made almost all that is real Heep to
> me and
> >> most of us. Music is all that matters, and this band has little if
> anything in
> >> common with the classic Heep. Still I like the Outsider, but wouldn't
> go into
> >> comparisons with Heep.
> >Cheers, Igor
> >
> >
> >Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:42:44 -0500 от Bob
> >> Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net >:
> >>You can say what ever you want
> >>It still
> >> says Uriah Heep on the Outsider and not one of them is a cover.
> >>Even in 1972,
> >> it was not the same Heep that started in 1970. They had their
> >>3rd bass player
> >> and 5th? Drummer by then. By 1977 they only had 2 original
> >>members. Mick
> >> does have legal rights to the name, the band has evolved and
> >>they continually
> >> put out new music. Some of this new music is as good as
> >>the old stuff.
> >> Between 2 Worlds is one of Heep’s geates songs that Hensley
> >>did not pen.
> >> Shaw and Lanzon will have 30 years in the band after next
> >>year.
> >>
> >>Since they
> >> continue to put out new music, we can celebrate what was, but
> >>embrace what
> >> is!
> >>
> >>
> >>On 11/10/14 12:33 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bob,
> >>> I respect any opinion, but see it myself from quite a
> >> different angle: Phil
> >>> Lanzon, Bernie Shaw, Russel Gilbrook, Davey Rimmer
> >> plus Mick Box mostly play
> >>> the songs, initially written and performed live
> >> by Hensley, Byron, Box etc.. -
> >>> I intentionally, on purpose, name the former
> >> band members in the order of
> >>> their contribution to the music of classic
> >> Heep. The only similarity between
> >>> the bands is the name plus the figure of
> >> lead guitarist, who is, of course,
> >>> still great and perhaps even better than
> >> ever... but we all know it ain't
> >>> enough to even come close to "that" Heep
> >> from all points of view. And I
> >>> wouldn't compare the two: this band, as I
> >> stated many times before, has its
> >>> own unique style; it shines, regarding
> >> studio work, on the modern rock skies
> >>> no worse than the legend did in the
> >> 70-s. But when it comes to live concerts,
> >>> modern Heep, - perhaps, not
> >> intentionally but still it's a fact - competes
> >>> with that band playing live
> >> the likes of Gypsy, July Morning etc. and, in my
> >>> eyes loses in almost every
> >> way. Having Lee and Trevor it was a bit different
> >>> 'cause they knew better
> >> how to play Heep music properly. Having Mr. Lawton on
> >>> stage made it even
> >> better - John is the singer, I tell ya' :))) Having said
> >>> that, I still
> >> enjoy the Outsider and would love to see it played live in all
> >>> it entirety
> >> while most of the classics should be left out for they truly do
> >>> not belong
> >> to this band and in their "reading" the songs are nothing but
> >>> covers
> >> really.
> >>> Cheers, Igor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:07:12 -0500 от Bob
> >> Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net >:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not agree, a cover band,
> >> covers the material of others. Uriah Heep
> >>>> continues to produce fresh new
> >> vibrant music!! They may not sound as great
> >>>> as 70's Heep but they have
> >> evolved and from what I see, Outsider is highly
> >>>> enjoyed and accepted by
> >> most fans.
> >>>>
> >>>> In contrast, you could take Styx, an oldies cover band who
> >> plays old songs.
> >>>> Their last cd was a cd of covers right? No new
> >> music.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob "All Heep is good Heep" Winward
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On
> >> 11/10/14 7:51 AM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> >>>> <
> >> /compose?To=zlenko_iv at mail.ru > > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> > With him they finally
> >> turned into what Heep became ages
> >>>>> > ago - a very professional cover band
> >> with one original member.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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