[Heeplist] Conquest

Wed Sep 24 19:11:11 EDT 2014

Agreed Shawn !!

Dale :-)>

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On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Shawn Mctopy <shawn.mctopy at selu.edu> wrote:

> Currently, singer *Bernie Shaw* has an energetic stage presence.
> 
> 
> He's a real *Dynamo* on stage.
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> 
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Dale Fredericks <dalhel at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> But Igor, you were mentioning his Stage Presence not his singing. That's
>> all I was referring to when I said he copied Mr. Plant.
>> 
>> Dale
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>> 
>>> When accused of imitating that front man, David Coverdale said smth
>> like, look, if you look a bit closer at Roger Daltrey you will see that
>> Plant borrowed almost everything from him. I believe, this isn't uncommon
>> for rock, but the singing is more important than image, and here, in John
>> Sloman, we have a very different kettle of fish.
>>> Cheers, Igor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:50:30 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski <
>> 11scorpio06 at gmail.com>:
>>>> I just watched the video and Johns moves are definitely imitating those
>> of a very young Robert Plant... no doubt about it!
>>>> On Sep 23, 2014 2:46 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>> Plant was different, voice-wise also. But there shouldn't be any
>> comparison, they belong to different eras and have 10 years age difference.
>> :)))
>>>>> Cheers, Igor
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:15:11 -0700 от Dale Fredericks <
>> dalhel at sbcglobal.net >:
>>>>>> Sorry Igor, but his stage presence seems to be an exact replica of
>> what was already done by Robert Plant, even down to the posturing of the
>> body and hands. Not impressed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dale :-)>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor Shveitser <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -------- Пересылаемое сообщение --------
>>>>>>> От кого: Igor Shveitser <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
>>>>>>> Кому: Heepsters Mailing List \(Travellers in Time\) <
>> heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>>>>>> Дата: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:24:06 +0400
>>>>>>> Тема: Re[2]: [Heeplist] Conquest
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>> I do appreciate the fact of your support but the truth is John
>> Sloman has nerver been the one with a crap voice. Comparing him with some
>> electric bard is rock blasphomy to me :) Sloman's vocals are more than
>> decent, he had a marvelous stage presence, and here's one more proof:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrdvpa1uQ0
>>>>>>> All the best, Igor
>>>>>>> P.S. Sloman, unlike a lot of singers in rock, is special. He was
>> never the best choice for Heep, but then again, we don't know what had the
>> band in mind when they decided to invite him. Anyway, Conquest is anything
>> but not an album without inspiration or imagination. That's why it is still
>> Heep, while your average Heep of the 80-s, despite all the qualities of the
>> players, is mostly mechanical down to earth stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:57:38 -0400 от Bob Winward <
>> uriahheep at comcast.net >:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pete, I do not think Igor was joking.  You know some people do like
>> music
>>>>>>>> with crap voices.  How do you explain the popularity still of Bruce
>>>>>>>> Springsteen?  He still sells out Stadiums in the USA and has his
>> own channel
>>>>>>>> on satellite radio.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Putting aside the lead vocals, the music is great, punchy and rocks.
>>>>>>>> Nothing Heep has done beats the opening riffs of Feelings  I know
>> you don't
>>>>>>>> like the song "..and you don't even care to pretend"  lol!  Some of
>> the
>>>>>>>> bonus tracks are really growing on me.  Anyone notice how powerful,
>> loud and
>>>>>>>> pronounced Trevor's bass is on Love Stealer?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Equator is a different record, the vocals are good, but the lyrics
>> are
>>>>>>>> juvinile and it sounds less like Heep with back ground vocals and
>> choir.
>>>>>>>> Different World, well it sounded like Heep was trying to get hit
>> singles
>>>>>>>> again, and they recorded 10 straight.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9/18/14 6:33 PM, "Pete Wharton" <   heeplistpete at ntlworld.com >
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You know on my 4 hour drive to work on Monday, I forced myself to
>> listen to
>>>>>>>>> this album again and then the mailing list rarities vol 2 with
>> John Lawton.
>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry Igor, but I really do not understand how you can say "
>> However,
>>>>>>>>> quality wise, mood wise that was still on the level of better Heep
>> works"
>>>>>>>>> about Conquest. I'm sorry but the CD is below the level of
>> Different World
>>>>>>>>> quality wise. Trevor never got time to do decent production on
>> that and
>>>>>>>>> Conquest just plain sucks with crap vocals and I can't find any
>> redeeming
>>>>>>>>> features on that CD at all. It's like Sloman can't hold a note so
>> he fakes it
>>>>>>>>> by going to a different one. Any decent songs have been lost in
>> the morass of
>>>>>>>>> Sloman's abysmal vocals! Even Equator stands head and shoulders
>> above this
>>>>>>>>> waste of effort.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>> 
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