[Heeplist] Conquest

Shawn Mctopy shawn.mctopy at selu.edu
Wed Sep 24 19:08:48 EDT 2014


Currently, singer *Bernie Shaw* has an energetic stage presence.


He's a real *Dynamo* on stage.




On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Dale Fredericks <dalhel at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> But Igor, you were mentioning his Stage Presence not his singing. That's
> all I was referring to when I said he copied Mr. Plant.
>
> Dale
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
>
> > When accused of imitating that front man, David Coverdale said smth
> like, look, if you look a bit closer at Roger Daltrey you will see that
> Plant borrowed almost everything from him. I believe, this isn't uncommon
> for rock, but the singing is more important than image, and here, in John
> Sloman, we have a very different kettle of fish.
> > Cheers, Igor
> >
> >
> > Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:50:30 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski <
> 11scorpio06 at gmail.com>:
> >> I just watched the video and Johns moves are definitely imitating those
> of a very young Robert Plant... no doubt about it!
> >> On Sep 23, 2014 2:46 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> >>>  Plant was different, voice-wise also. But there shouldn't be any
> comparison, they belong to different eras and have 10 years age difference.
> :)))
> >>> Cheers, Igor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:15:11 -0700 от Dale Fredericks <
> dalhel at sbcglobal.net >:
> >>>> Sorry Igor, but his stage presence seems to be an exact replica of
> what was already done by Robert Plant, even down to the posturing of the
> body and hands. Not impressed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dale :-)>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor Shveitser <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------- Пересылаемое сообщение --------
> >>>>> От кого: Igor Shveitser <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> >>>>> Кому: Heepsters Mailing List \(Travellers in Time\) <
> heeplist at travellersintime.com >
> >>>>> Дата: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:24:06 +0400
> >>>>> Тема: Re[2]: [Heeplist] Conquest
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob,
> >>>>> I do appreciate the fact of your support but the truth is John
> Sloman has nerver been the one with a crap voice. Comparing him with some
> electric bard is rock blasphomy to me :) Sloman's vocals are more than
> decent, he had a marvelous stage presence, and here's one more proof:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrdvpa1uQ0
> >>>>> All the best, Igor
> >>>>> P.S. Sloman, unlike a lot of singers in rock, is special. He was
> never the best choice for Heep, but then again, we don't know what had the
> band in mind when they decided to invite him. Anyway, Conquest is anything
> but not an album without inspiration or imagination. That's why it is still
> Heep, while your average Heep of the 80-s, despite all the qualities of the
> players, is mostly mechanical down to earth stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:57:38 -0400 от Bob Winward <
> uriahheep at comcast.net >:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pete, I do not think Igor was joking.  You know some people do like
> music
> >>>>>> with crap voices.  How do you explain the popularity still of Bruce
> >>>>>> Springsteen?  He still sells out Stadiums in the USA and has his
> own channel
> >>>>>> on satellite radio.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Putting aside the lead vocals, the music is great, punchy and rocks.
> >>>>>> Nothing Heep has done beats the opening riffs of Feelings  I know
> you don't
> >>>>>> like the song "..and you don't even care to pretend"  lol!  Some of
> the
> >>>>>> bonus tracks are really growing on me.  Anyone notice how powerful,
> loud and
> >>>>>> pronounced Trevor's bass is on Love Stealer?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Equator is a different record, the vocals are good, but the lyrics
> are
> >>>>>> juvinile and it sounds less like Heep with back ground vocals and
> choir.
> >>>>>> Different World, well it sounded like Heep was trying to get hit
> singles
> >>>>>> again, and they recorded 10 straight.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/18/14 6:33 PM, "Pete Wharton" <   heeplistpete at ntlworld.com >
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You know on my 4 hour drive to work on Monday, I forced myself to
> listen to
> >>>>>>> this album again and then the mailing list rarities vol 2 with
> John Lawton.
> >>>>>>> I'm sorry Igor, but I really do not understand how you can say "
> However,
> >>>>>>> quality wise, mood wise that was still on the level of better Heep
> works"
> >>>>>>> about Conquest. I'm sorry but the CD is below the level of
> Different World
> >>>>>>> quality wise. Trevor never got time to do decent production on
> that and
> >>>>>>> Conquest just plain sucks with crap vocals and I can't find any
> redeeming
> >>>>>>> features on that CD at all. It's like Sloman can't hold a note so
> he fakes it
> >>>>>>> by going to a different one. Any decent songs have been lost in
> the morass of
> >>>>>>> Sloman's abysmal vocals! Even Equator stands head and shoulders
> above this
> >>>>>>> waste of effort.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pete
> >>>>>>
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