[Heeplist] Firefly and beyond

Shawn Mctopy shawn.mctopy at selu.edu
Thu Aug 28 14:33:47 EDT 2014 

Cello Sound?


Would this be 'Volume Swells'?



Thanks.


:)


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Hello Pete,
> Perhaps, the latter would've been possible ... if again, the song was
> penned by anyone else but Ken :))) As of  the first part of your
> suggestion, perhaps, you'd care to read my review of Look At Yourself -
> there I gave some reasons regarding why the "whys" of Uriah Heep never
> really fitted the albums...
> http://www.david-byron.ru/uriah-heep-look-at-yourself-review/  Sorry for
> this being only in Russian as of now, still you can use Google translate,
> it fits ok for the task.  https://translate.google.com/
>
>  However, if you're lazy to deal with it,  I can clumsily put the final
> part into English using that funny site: P.S. With its 41 minutes of
> playing the album «Look At Yourself» appeared to be the longest of all the
> albums recorded by Uriah Heep with David Byron as the vocalist. And as
> producer Gerry Bron basically did not want to go beyond that time frame,
> fearing lower sound quality albums due to seal tracks, some of the sessions
> in 1971 remained outside of the vinyl disc. Published later, in the 1990s
> and 2000s, on various compilations and remaster versions in CDDA format,
> this "something" for many fans of the band is no less valuable than the
> seven compositions described above. Of course, to imagine them as part of
> «Look At Yourself», which was the theme of my story - a dynamic, impulsive,
> yet elaborate in terms of layout - is difficult, if not impossible. At the
> same artistic merits of bonus songs are undeniable. They say, a ballad in
> the key of D major «What's Within My Heart» was recorded on the same day as
> «What Should Be Done», and the musicians were not aware of the fact that
> bobins rotate when the red button of studio recorder was activated.
> However, this version is not very convincing, since Ken before the
> composition threw the phrase "Red light's on" which was a clear signal:
> that is being recorded. The ballad is fascinatingly beautiful - but  it is
> easier to imagine it being part of  "Led Zeppelin" repertoire of  of the
> same year, while "Heep", apparently feared losing stiffness of sound and
> dynamic sachieved with such difficulty. Pretty much the same could be said
> about Gerry Bron's unloved meditative and progressive number in C minor
> called «Why». Hear how skillfully Mick Box uses the volume control on the
> guitar  - what's the crucial difference between his playing with "cello"
> sound in this case with the same actions of Ritchie Blackmore in the
> composition «Fools» from the «Fireball»album? However, this is a rhetorical
> question, time has proven that almost every musician of the 70-s Uriah Heep
> could be considered the founder and leading figure of the genre in no less
> degree than any rock star mentioned more frequently  in the press of those
> years or in music talk . And the songs themselves, even among non-album -
> they are undisputed classics of the genre, which we can enjoy after many,
> many years, as if heard them yesterday.
>
>
> Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:02:07 +0100 от "Pete Wharton" <
> heeplistpete at ntlworld.com>:
> >Late reply I know, but I will never understand why a proper slow  version
> of Why or especially What's Within My Heart was never released on a studio
> album. WWMH is absolutely classic Heep and deserves wider recognition. Wish
> they'd done it on the acoustically driven gig. That would have fitted so
> beautifully.
> >
> >Pete
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf
> Of Igor Shveitser
> >Sent: 21 August 2014 19:24
> >To: Kevin Milanowski; Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
> >Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Firefly and beyond
> >
> > Kevin, I believe we've already heard all they've recorded over the
> years, at least as much as relates to the Hensley era. If you have the
> remasters, there's a lot adding to the 37-40 minutes of the classic LPs. I
> like the songs but in my opinion the best have already made it to the
> records back then.
> >Cheers, Igor
> >
> >
> >
> >Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:04:24 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski <
> 11scorpio06 at gmail.com >:
> >>Igor over the years the band has dug into the archives and pulled out
> >>song said just wouldn't fit on vinyl and added them to their CDs I only
> hope that maybe they'll see the value of these un heard to the many of us
> who would like to hear everything They ever did regardless On Aug 21, 2014
> 12:45 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
> >>> Welcome again and rock on, Kevin!
> >>>Cheers, Igor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:47:42 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski <
> 11scorpio06 at gmail.com >:
> >>>>I have been Uriah Heep fan since I was 8 or 9 years old in 71 or 72 ,
> >>>>I like this site and the varied opinions the beauty of it is the fact
> >>>>that thoughts and opinions are shared among a great number of people
> >>>>from all over I myself am from Milwaukee Wisconsin and had been
> >>>>enjoying Heep since my older brother God rest his soul turned me on
> >>>>as a youngster... I hope to continue these conversations with all you
> >>>>fine people and thank you to those of you who have welcomed me aboard
> >>>>rock on I say again On Aug 21, 2014 11:39 AM, "Bob Winward" <
> uriahheep at comcast.net > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kevin, I am Bob from the USA in New Jersey, I just responded to
> >>>>> Igor who responded to you and said the same thing you did.  One
> >>>>> thing you will find on this list, some will agree and some won't.
> >>>>> Sometimes the only agreement is to disagree, lol!  There are some
> >>>>> who feel Heep ceased to be Heep when David left and they are now a
> cover band.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Heck, even Manchester United does not have the same personnel it
> >>>>> did 40 years ago, but still have the name.  (I picked them as that
> >>>>> is Mick's team)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I heard a band last night locally called the Duprees.  They are the
> >>>>> current incarnation of a 50's band, yet not one of them is
> >>>>> original.  There is one guy who joined before the last original
> >>>>> member left and he claims the torch was passed to him.
> >>>>> Interesting, they perform as the Duprees.  "See the pyraminds along
> >>>>> the nile, see the market place in old Algiers..... You belong to
> meeeeeeeeeee....."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ps there is one guy on the list who is always right.  He is Jay in
> >>>>> Seatle, but I only see his posts when someone replies to them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/21/14 12:15 PM, "Kevin Milanowski" <  11scorpio06 at gmail.com >
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > As much as I would have liked to hear David Byron's vocals on
> >>>>> > those
> >>>>> songsthey
> >>>>> > were done with energy and style and a different sound with the
> >>>>> wonderful
> >>>>> > vocals of mister john lawton.... It is what it is all in all a
> >>>>> really great
> >>>>> > album
> >>>>> On Aug 21, 2014 11:13 AM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Firefly is a fantastic album for its year which was 1977, but
> >>>>> > this was NOT written for David. :))) Cheers, Igor
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:13:29 -0400
> >>>>> > от Stan From Home <  evens78 at chartermi.net >:
> >>>>> > >I listened to Firefly last
> >>>>> > night, what an awesome album. It has probably been stated before
> >>>>> > by the pros, but here is an amateur take on this,
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >This was written and
> >>>>> > designed for Bryon, however Lawton had to cover it.
> >>>>> > This is so good, I can't
> >>>>> > imagine how much better with the greatest voice to ever walk on
> >>>>> > this planet, IMO.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >The next two were designed for John, and are also very good but
> >>>>> > different.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >Bottom line, we have a great catalog from the greatest
> >>>>> > band!!
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >Thanks
> >>>>> > >Stan
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> >
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