[Heeplist] Firefly and beyond

Igor Shveitser zlenko_iv at mail.ru
Thu Aug 28 14:03:51 EDT 2014 

 Hello Pete,
Perhaps, the latter would've been possible ... if again, the song was penned by anyone else but Ken :))) As of  the first part of your suggestion, perhaps, you'd care to read my review of Look At Yourself - there I gave some reasons regarding why the "whys" of Uriah Heep never really fitted the albums...  http://www.david-byron.ru/uriah-heep-look-at-yourself-review/  Sorry for this being only in Russian as of now, still you can use Google translate, it fits ok for the task.  https://translate.google.com/

 However, if you're lazy to deal with it,  I can clumsily put the final part into English using that funny site: P.S. With its 41 minutes of playing the album «Look At Yourself» appeared to be the longest of all the albums recorded by Uriah Heep with David Byron as the vocalist. And as producer Gerry Bron basically did not want to go beyond that time frame, fearing lower sound quality albums due to seal tracks, some of the sessions in 1971 remained outside of the vinyl disc. Published later, in the 1990s and 2000s, on various compilations and remaster versions in CDDA format, this "something" for many fans of the band is no less valuable than the seven compositions described above. Of course, to imagine them as part of «Look At Yourself», which was the theme of my story - a dynamic, impulsive, yet elaborate in terms of layout - is difficult, if not impossible. At the same artistic merits of bonus songs are undeniable. They say, a ballad in the key of D major «What's Within My Heart» was recorded on the same day as «What Should Be Done», and the musicians were not aware of the fact that bobins rotate when the red button of studio recorder was activated. However, this version is not very convincing, since Ken before the composition threw the phrase "Red light's on" which was a clear signal: that is being recorded. The ballad is fascinatingly beautiful - but  it is easier to imagine it being part of  "Led Zeppelin" repertoire of  of the same year, while "Heep", apparently feared losing stiffness of sound and dynamic sachieved with such difficulty. Pretty much the same could be said about Gerry Bron's unloved meditative and progressive number in C minor called «Why». Hear how skillfully Mick Box uses the volume control on the guitar  - what's the crucial difference between his playing with "cello" sound in this case with the same actions of Ritchie Blackmore in the composition «Fools» from the «Fireball»album? However, this is a rhetorical question, time has proven that almost every musician of the 70-s Uriah Heep could be considered the founder and leading figure of the genre in no less degree than any rock star mentioned more frequently  in the press of those years or in music talk . And the songs themselves, even among non-album - they are undisputed classics of the genre, which we can enjoy after many, many years, as if heard them yesterday. 


Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:02:07 +0100 от "Pete Wharton" <heeplistpete at ntlworld.com>:
>Late reply I know, but I will never understand why a proper slow  version of Why or especially What's Within My Heart was never released on a studio album. WWMH is absolutely classic Heep and deserves wider recognition. Wish they'd done it on the acoustically driven gig. That would have fitted so beautifully.
>
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf Of Igor Shveitser
>Sent: 21 August 2014 19:24
>To: Kevin Milanowski; Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Firefly and beyond
>
> Kevin, I believe we've already heard all they've recorded over the years, at least as much as relates to the Hensley era. If you have the remasters, there's a lot adding to the 37-40 minutes of the classic LPs. I like the songs but in my opinion the best have already made it to the records back then.
>Cheers, Igor
>
>
>
>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:04:24 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski < 11scorpio06 at gmail.com >:
>>Igor over the years the band has dug into the archives and pulled out 
>>song said just wouldn't fit on vinyl and added them to their CDs I only hope that maybe they'll see the value of these un heard to the many of us who would like to hear everything They ever did regardless On Aug 21, 2014 12:45 PM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>> Welcome again and rock on, Kevin!
>>>Cheers, Igor
>>>
>>>
>>>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:47:42 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski <  11scorpio06 at gmail.com >:
>>>>I have been Uriah Heep fan since I was 8 or 9 years old in 71 or 72 , 
>>>>I like this site and the varied opinions the beauty of it is the fact 
>>>>that thoughts and opinions are shared among a great number of people 
>>>>from all over I myself am from Milwaukee Wisconsin and had been 
>>>>enjoying Heep since my older brother God rest his soul turned me on 
>>>>as a youngster... I hope to continue these conversations with all you 
>>>>fine people and thank you to those of you who have welcomed me aboard 
>>>>rock on I say again On Aug 21, 2014 11:39 AM, "Bob Winward" <  uriahheep at comcast.net > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kevin, I am Bob from the USA in New Jersey, I just responded to 
>>>>> Igor who responded to you and said the same thing you did.  One 
>>>>> thing you will find on this list, some will agree and some won't. 
>>>>> Sometimes the only agreement is to disagree, lol!  There are some 
>>>>> who feel Heep ceased to be Heep when David left and they are now a cover band.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, even Manchester United does not have the same personnel it 
>>>>> did 40 years ago, but still have the name.  (I picked them as that 
>>>>> is Mick's team)
>>>>>
>>>>> I heard a band last night locally called the Duprees.  They are the 
>>>>> current incarnation of a 50's band, yet not one of them is 
>>>>> original.  There is one guy who joined before the last original 
>>>>> member left and he claims the torch was passed to him. 
>>>>> Interesting, they perform as the Duprees.  "See the pyraminds along 
>>>>> the nile, see the market place in old Algiers..... You belong to meeeeeeeeeee....."
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps there is one guy on the list who is always right.  He is Jay in 
>>>>> Seatle, but I only see his posts when someone replies to them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/21/14 12:15 PM, "Kevin Milanowski" <  11scorpio06 at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > As much as I would have liked to hear David Byron's vocals on 
>>>>> > those
>>>>> songsthey
>>>>> > were done with energy and style and a different sound with the
>>>>> wonderful
>>>>> > vocals of mister john lawton.... It is what it is all in all a
>>>>> really great
>>>>> > album
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2014 11:13 AM, "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Firefly is a fantastic album for its year which was 1977, but 
>>>>> > this was NOT written for David. :))) Cheers, Igor
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:13:29 -0400
>>>>> > от Stan From Home <  evens78 at chartermi.net >:
>>>>> > >I listened to Firefly last
>>>>> > night, what an awesome album. It has probably been stated before 
>>>>> > by the pros, but here is an amateur take on this,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >This was written and
>>>>> > designed for Bryon, however Lawton had to cover it.
>>>>> > This is so good, I can't
>>>>> > imagine how much better with the greatest voice to ever walk on 
>>>>> > this planet, IMO.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >The next two were designed for John, and are also very good but
>>>>> > different.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Bottom line, we have a great catalog from the greatest
>>>>> > band!!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Thanks
>>>>> > >Stan
>>>>> > >
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