[Heeplist] Heeplist] H&M Filler

Wed Aug 20 07:32:08 EDT 2014

I agree.  One of my early favorite vocalists was Jay Black of Jay and the
Americans, a big 60's band.  I saw Jay Black live in 2002 and he was still
able to hit the high note on "Cara Mia Wine" and yet still sound like a man.
Another vocalist like that was Franki Valli of the Four Seasons.  Anyone see
the movie "Jersey Boys"?

On 8/19/14 9:28 PM, "Dave Sherod" <porcupineheep at cox.net> wrote:

> I enjoy John Wetton as a singer, I just never liked when he tries to sing to
> high, Greg Lake was another singer that didn't sound good singing high but was
> outstanding otherwise. A guy singing high is something Heep alone was so good
> at. Most singers tend to sound like guys trying to sing like a girl, but Heep
> was able to maintain their manhood in the high range, except for Wetton on
> lead vocals. Dave S.
> 
> uriahheep at comcast.net wrote:
>> I stand corrected!! lol!! What I actually meant was some consider those songs
>> filler by previous posts over the last 18 years on the list. Personally, I
>> love the chanting and the vocals on Can't Stop Singing. Pete do you remember
>> when Mick was on the list and I asked him what the chant was in the beginning
>> of the song? His answer was "Loads of Laughs in Africa"
>> As for Confession, a great vocal by David similar to Rain. A very meaningful
>> song and nice ballad in which Heep proved it could do a Capella. That is also
>> right about Ken playing Weep in Silence, I always loved his guitar work in
>> Heep. Does anyone remember the song Fools on Conquest? Did Ken play that solo
>> too? I am guilty of giving the wrong guy credit.
>> 
>> The vocal on One Way or Another I like as a change of pace. As a fan of King
>> Crimson, UK and Asia, I always enjoyed Wetton's vocals.
>> 
>> Remember I consider no heep as filler or else All Heep is good Heep would not
>> make sense. 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "Pete Wharton" <heeplistpete at ntlworld.com>
>> To: "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:46:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] H&M Filler
>> 
>> Oh dear, I am going to have to correct you boys again. "Confession" is no
>> way filler, it is the stand out track on the album. The one that makes it
>> worth listening to! If you want filler look at One Way or Another and
>> Wetton's awful vocals on it. I shall brook no argument on this. In this, my
>> opininion is,like Jay's, always correct :-) Now go listen to Confession
>> again 10 times in succession and tell me another Heep ballad that comes
>> anywhere close to it. See I told you, you can't :-) End of debate!
>> 
>> Pete 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf Of
>> Bob Winward 
>> Sent: 19 August 2014 12:44
>> To: Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] Heeplist] (no subject)
>> 
>> I think folk were turned off by H&M because the band deviated from fantasy.
>> However in my opinion, at the time and still, Ken got his chance to dominate
>> and shine. The music is outstanding. Ok, there is 2 filler songs Can't
>> Stop Singing and Confession, but the rest of them rock. Even Make A Little
>> Love is a catchy tune. Their most underated tune is "Can't Keep a Good Band
>> Down" I have always felt that would be a perfect track for them to open
>> shows with. Listen to the lyrics, Heep is waving their flag at the
>> critics!! 
>> 
>> The guitar work is Mick's best to date and though Ken did abandon the
>> hammond, his keys are very progressive sounding for the time. David soared
>> on this one, it was his best vocal to date. Other than Confession, I don't
>> hear any pop. Weep in Silence has to be Mick's signature track, the guitar
>> work on that song is breathtaking. Footprints in the Snow is one of the
>> most haunting songs heep has done. Midnight, my all time favorite heep song
>> is the one that conjures up the magic of early pyschodelic heep. One Way
>> or Another is a rocking song and I always liked the different feel of the
>> vocals. 
>> 
>> By the way what is wrong with Pop anyway? I hate the term!! I like music
>> that is light and airy and positive sounding. Go listen to some Hip Hop
>> with all its ethnic slurs and foul language. Then put on some country
>> music!! By the time you roll around to the pop again, it will sound pretty
>> good! 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/18/14 3:20 PM, "Dave Sherod" <porcupineheep at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's got some great tracks and some real dogs, overall it's just a
>>> soft pop album that at the time I felt it was by far their worst album
>>> to date and really was a big let down at the time. I have grown to
>>> really enjoy this album with the bonus tracks. Dave S.
>>> 
>>> Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> And yet, I have always felt H&M was their pinnacle, their best to
>>>> date since it was so progressive. I still get goosebumps when I
>>>> listen to Midnight, Weep in Silence or Footprints in the Snow.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/17/14 4:29 AM, "Dave Sherod" <porcupineheep at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> A very big turning point, they went from headline to support
>>>>> billing, I was so upset I never listened to anything new till the
>>>>> 90s. It was like they disappeared after High and Mighty, I didn't
>>>>> know anyone that followed them after that album, it was to light
>>>>> weight and pop for most and combined with losing David we all gave
>>>>> up on them. Dave S.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dale Fredericks <dalhel at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> High And Mighty seems to me to be the turning point for Heep's
>> "spirit". 
>>>>>> Just my opinion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dale :-)> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Don Malecic <docofun at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Defiantly the spirt #1
>>>>>>> Analog sound recording and vintage equipment #2 You can be the
>>>>>>> tightest playing group hitting all the right notes, but without
>>>>>>> feeling and spirit, forget it!
>>>>>>> Wonder after which album you guys felt Heeps spirit started
>>>>>>> slipping away, I'm thinking Return to Fantasy?
>>>>>>> Probably when all the problems started coming to a head with the
>> group? 
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