[Heeplist] Heeplist] Heeplist] UH singers

Tue Aug 5 06:45:34 EDT 2014

 David,
If anything is missing with people like Mick Box it is for sure not confidence or whatsoever :)))))))))))) I see him differently, he was always the team kind of player who hardly has to offer anything substantial on his own (and the proof is absolute zero of his and only his songs throughout the respective carreer). But he was and still is great in co-writing the material. As Ken said. "Mick had ideas..." - to me, as also to a guitar playing lad, it means the following: Mr.Box often offered riffs and solos which eventually mostly had made it to those masterpiece LPs, and he was - and still is, it shows on the likes of Outsider! - very good at jamming. On the other hand, Hensley mostly brought in SONGS which only needed arrangement, and since they had internally some kind of legal treaty regarding of what to consider a song or an arrangement (or, putting it simple, who's got to be payed, how many times, and for what), that finally led to a situation when most of the Heep felt like there's not much reason for them to go on like that. As for Bron-Hensley-Kerslake situation, I am sure you will be so kind as to proove where exactly Ken was given all the writing credit (in case with Lee) and how on earth that affected on Lee's departure which happened appr. one year after that supposed injustice. I think, somebody gave you the wrong idea of how it was... or did I really miss something of value regarding that band?
Cheers. Igor

Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:30:17 -0700 от DAVID M SHERROD <porcupineheep at cox.net>:
>As for Micks solos, I think Salisbury through Sweet Freedom is my favorite era. As for Micks song idea's like everyone else's were left behind because Bron only wanted Ken writing the songs and would give him all the writing credits even when Lee wrote most of the song, which led to him leaving the band. So it had to affect Micks confidence in his own song writing which could be why they did so many covers in the Goalby era. Dave S.
>
>Don Malecic < docofun at gmail.com > wrote:
>>Hi Igor,
>>You mentioned that Hensley remarked in his own words that Mick only had
>>"ideas "
>>Just curious if any of those ideas were ever aknowleged by the band or,
>>Micks ideas just fell to deaf ears?
>>As I recall many classic rock guitarists have come up with riff patterns as
>>ideas that have become rock classics .
>>Tony Iommi , reverend Billy Gibbons to mention a few.
>>All I know is Hensley wrote some great songs, most were ballads and peotic
>>in form.
>>He defenatley left his mark in Heeps history .
>>
>>Hey Dave,
>>Just wondering what era did you enjoy Micks playing the most ?
>>Don
>>
>>
>>On Monday, August 4, 2014, DAVID M SHERROD < porcupineheep at cox.net > wrote:
>>
>>> I have to say Micks solos were far better back then, simply amazing, but I
>>> think that's true for most 70s guitar player's. Dave S.
>>>
>>> Don Malecic < docofun at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> >I like Heep hard rockin!
>>> >Maybe Mick wasn't a Song writer back then, but he played a mean guitar!
>>> >They would have captured more of the North American market with heavy
>>> >guitar riffs.
>>> >God bless Mick Box!
>>> >Don
>>> >
>>> >On Monday, August 4, 2014, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>  To this I must add: to me even pronouncing Lawton's name along with
>>> >> Goalby's is a blasphomy. John's voice is beautiful, colorful and
>>> extremely
>>> >> powerful, and I daresay he was the best singer in Heep if we consider
>>> >> power, range, flexibility as well as some other components. However
>>> there's
>>> >> only one David Byron. As I said earlier, he was special - and he was
>>> one of
>>> >> those who formed the band.
>>> >> P.S. To Don's remarks about Mick Box' place in Heep' history I will
>>> answer
>>> >> with Mr. Hensley's words which in my opinion more than shed a light on
>>> why
>>> >> Mr.Box was a bit behind overall during the classical period: "When we'd
>>> get
>>> >> to studio to record another album, I usually had 8 songs, David had a
>>> >> couple, Mick had... ideas..." In my opinion, that sums it up: that band
>>> was
>>> >> about songs, and only since it had become more customized hard rocking
>>> unit
>>> >> with Mick Box at helm, he finally got himself more space in the mix.
>>> >> Cheers, Igor
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Mon, 04 Aug 2014 19:31:36 +0400 от Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
>>> <javascript:;>
>>> >> <javascript:;>>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Like it or not, Byron era is all classics, he was a special vocalist
>>> and
>>> >> a very influential one. With all respect, you can't say that about any
>>> of
>>> >> the rest, however John Lawton stands out - because he was and still is
>>> THE
>>> >> SINGER.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >All the best,
>>> >> >Igor Shveytser
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