[Heeplist] 2001 MBP

Wed Aug 28 06:43:34 EDT 2013

Dave you are right, he was not there, he was not on the list at that time.
And this is what, 12 years later?

On 8/28/13 12:16 AM, "Dave Sherod" <porcupineheep at cox.net> wrote:

> I don't have an axe to grind either, but Ken's vocals were talked about a lot
> on the list after that show, and so was John Wettons drinking, in fact John's
> official website addresses the subject as well since he went into rehab within
> weeks of that show. It was well known at the time Ken had a bad cold and was
> about to lose his voice. I shouldn't have said his voice was spent, but
> everything else was talked about on the list at that time. And I have never
> anyone in the band say anything bad about each other that weekend. I was very
> surprised that anyone took exception to what said as I thought everyone knew
> these things.
Dave

Mac Steagall <rsteagall at carolina.rr.com>
> wrote:

>Igor,
>
>I have no axe to grind concerning how things went 
>down
> during the 2001 MBP. However, I do take 
>anything said by band members past
> and present
>with a grain of salt. Obviously, they have their 
>own interests
> to support and they are hardly 
>unbiased. I think if you back either side
> 
>completely (Ken vs Mick), it will bite you on the 
>ass eventually.  In
> other words, no one's perfect
>and everyone makes mistakes so I'm sure there
> is 
>plenty blame to go around for everyone involved. ;-)
>
>Mac
>
>At 03:27
> PM 8/27/2013, you wrote:
>>  Thanks, Shawn, if you use youtube, you can see
> 
>> for yourself how was that and also were they 
>> (John and Ken) really
> drunk and not in good 
>> voice respectively. I never fancied when 
>> anybody
> deliberately distorted true facts and 
>> real intentions of certain people.
> Cheers, Igor 
>> Ð’Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 27 Ð°Ð²Ð³ÑƒÑÑ‚Ð° 2013, 11:54 
>> -05:00 Ð¾Ñ‚
> Shawn Mctopy 
>> <shawn.mctopy at selu.edu>: >Igor & David, > >I 
>> wish that I
> could attend a *Magician's Birthday 
>> Party* event! If they >still have this
> event, 
>> that is. > >An *'Acoustic'* show would be a 
>> blast to attend
> too, as I really like >the 
>> *'ACOUSTICALLY >DRIVEN'* album. > >*John 
>>
> Wetton*? I like the song *'One Way or 
>> Another'*, that features John >on
> vocals and 
>> bass guitar. It's a *Funky* little 
>> number. >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSBK_Q 
>> IOWqQ > >Although my favorite song
> from *'HIGH 
>> AND MIGHTY'* is *'Weep In Silence'*. > >*URIAH 
>> HEEP*, in a
> word - *ROCKS!!!* > >Take care, 
>> David & Igor. > >Keep A *HEEP'n!* > >
> >Shawn 
>> - > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 
>> 11:23 AM, DAVID M
> SHERROD < 
>> porcupineheep at cox.net >wrote: > >> I wasn't 
>> there, and
> everything I heard about John and 
>> Ken came from people >> that were there,
> I do 
>> like the official releases of Hensley and 
>> Wetton, but >> I read
> someplace that Ken went 
>> in the studio and 're did his vocals for the >>
> 
>> releases. I know Ken didn't want them released 
>> but had no real say in
> the >> matter other than 
>> fixing his vocals for the release because he 
>>
> had a really >> bad cold at the time. >> 
>> Dave >> >> Igor Shveitser <
> zlenko_iv at mail.ru > 
>> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > >> >-------- 
>>
> ÐŸÐµÑ€ÐµÑÑ‹Ð»Ð°ÐµÐ¼Ð¾Ðµ ÑÐ¾Ð¾Ð±Ñ‰ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ðµ 
>> -------- >> >ÐžÑ‚ ÐºÐ¾Ð³Ð¾:
> Igor Shveitser < 
>> zlenko_iv at mail.ru > >> >ÐšÐ¾Ð¼Ñƒ: Bob Winward < 
>>
> uriahheep at comcast.net > >> >Ð”Ð°Ñ‚Ð°: 
>> Ð’Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 27 Ð°Ð²Ð³ÑƒÑÑ‚Ð°
> 2013, 19:42 
>> +04:00 >> >Ð¢ÐµÐ¼Ð°: Re[2]: [Heeplist] Ken 
>> Hensley >> > >>
> >Bob, >> >I wasn't there, there 
>> was less possibility of me coming there
> than 
>> for >> you, for instance, coming to Russia when 
>> Mick or Ken plays
> here - and it >> happens 
>> quite often, I must say :))))) Perhaps, your 
>>
> version could pass for >> those who are not 
>> that familiar with Heep
> material and their 
>> complicated >> relationships, but not for me. I 
>>
> think, both albums with Wetton mean much >> 
>> much more to the band's legacy
> than anything 
>> made later. Especially after >> Ken left. 
>> Having said
> that, I do not mean you tell lies - 
>> it's just an >> opinion that omits
> Ken's input 
>> as a vocalist and bandleader (which in fact >> 
>> he was
> once). Paradise/The Spell sung by Lee 
>> instead of Ken was a joke. He >> was
> much more 
>> than just a Hammond and slide guitar player, 
>> and I hope you
> >> know that.  As for Dave 
>> Sherod' story of drunken JW and Ken's voice 
>>
> having >> been spent by the time in question: 
>> please, do me a favor,Dave,
> watch More >> Than 
>> Conquerors - the truth must be known...  It was 
>> up
> to the band to >> decide in which shape to 
>> appear (and I think their
> image, not Ken's 
>> or >> John's) suffered the most from that 
>> choice of
> theirs) - but I hope it >> wasn't 
>> them who told all those horrible 
>>
> lies. >> >Cheers, 
>> Igor >> > >> > >> >Ð’Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ð½Ð¸Ðº, 27 
>> Ð°Ð²Ð³ÑƒÑÑ‚Ð°
> 2013, 7:54 -04:00 Ð¾Ñ‚ Bob 
>> Winward 
>> < >>  uriahheep at comcast.net >: >>
> >>Igor were 
>> you there in London 2001?  Anyhow, I was told 
>> John W was
> not >> >>involved because they had a 
>> bass player (Trevor) and John's only
> 
>> real >> >>memorable contribution was some 
>> vocals on One Way or Another
> and the >> 
>> current >> >>band didn't want to do that song, 
>> which also
> was a situation where John >> 
>> and >> >>Ken shared vocals. >> >> >>
> >>Everyone 
>> was there to hear Ken on Hammond and 
>> slide. >> >> >> >> >>
> >>On 8/26/13 1:27 PM, 
>> "Igor Shveitser" <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru > 
>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>  Lee was singing then 
>> because it was pre-decided, they
> rehearsed 
>> that, >> as Ken >> >>> told me once. And 
>> although he didn't
> mention it, something told 
>> me he >> was not >> >>> excited about it (and
> 
>> the whole event, that was Heepvention 2001) 
>> at >> all. I >> >>> can
> understand that for 
>> there was not the real Ken Hensley of Uriah >> 
>>
> Heep but >> >>> his diminished or edited - 
>> whatever you call it - version.
> I also >> asked 
>> him >> >>> why wasn't John Wetton invited to 
>> take part
> in the band's show, and he >> had 
>> no >> >>> answer, readdressing me to Bob
> 
>> Carruthers with that and agreeing John >> was 
>> a >> >>> significant
> part of Uriah 
>> Heep. >> >>Cheers, 
>> Igor >> >> >> >> >>
> >>ÐŸÐ¾Ð½ÐµÐ´ÐµÐ»ÑŒÐ½Ð¸Ðº, 
>> 26 Ð°Ð²Ð³ÑƒÑÑ‚Ð° 2013, >> >>> 4:21 -07:00 Ð¾Ñ‚
> 
>> DAVID M SHERROD 
>> <  porcupineheep at cox.net >: >> >>>The one from 
>>
> 2001 has >> >>> Lee singing in place of Ken 
>> because his voice was spent at
> the time, >> if 
>> I >> >>> remember right. 
>> T >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >-- >> >Igor 
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