[Heeplist] Heeplist] Byron era and the others

Wed Mar 11 23:18:55 EDT 2015

Well stated Igor !
Except for groups like Pink Floyd and ELP, most of the time it usually took until the 2nd or 3rd song in a set before the “bugs” were fixed to the point that the shows sounded decent.

Dale :-)>

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:
> 
> Dale,
> Unfortunately for being a Heep fan I was only born that year and not in America :)))))) But I was lucky enough to get the CD as soon as it came out, so I'm still in love with that show as well and do appreciate all of those funny things too. :))
> Peace&love
> Igor
> 
> 
> Среда, 11 марта 2015, 8:59 -07:00 от Dale Fredericks <dalhel at sbcglobal.net>:
>> It’s funny Igor would mention the San Diego show, with all of it’s “mistakes”, a few of us on the list were at that show and personally for me it was one of the best concerts I ever attended. I agree with Dave and Grace, those “mistakes” were quite common with not only Heep but quite a few of the other groups at that time. It was the 70’s, way before everything got so technically correct !
>> 
>> Dale :-)>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:33 PM, DAVID M SHERROD < porcupineheep at cox.net > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You couldn't be more right about the unpredictable shows from early Heep being so great, and that's what I miss the most about today's lineup, you always know what your going to get, I really wish they would let it hang out a bit more and not be so perfect, in turn it's also what I liked least about the vocal side of the Byron era, but mostly the backing vocals which are really bad on many of the bootlegs, on most all of them, that said I never had a problem with David on any of those recordings being a bit off here and there, even on a bad night he could pull out amazing things. Dave S
>>> 
>>> Grace Clarke < bolan77 at rocketmail.com > wrote:
>>>> I know what you mean, Igor. There are many 'mistakes' on the live performances of early Heep but that's what I was referring to when I mentioned that I liked the raw vibe of that era. Mistakes are natural. You can never be perfect but that's cool. I like that rough edge and unpredictability of live Heep shows of the Byron era. It was a great time and I really enjoy looking back through these unique performances. Byron has a completely unique approach to the live atmosphere and it's captivating. There was a lot of magic in this time, less so now. However, in more recent Heep times, they rock! Bernie Shaw is a mighty vocalist. I was lucky enough to be invited to their backstage bar after a gig last year and got chatting with all of the band. Really genuine guys and Bernie really is an amazing vocalist. Just an amazing band really!
>>>> 
>>>> Rock on!
>>>> Grace.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 01:50, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Grace,
>>>>> Thank you for the detailed answer. I also think there is magic in what the band did during their early days. Actually, for me the last traces of magic might be noticed in the LP of 1980, after that the band's energy became different. It might sound funny, but the more I learned about that Heep on stage, the more I should turn away from them due to multiple mistakes and sometimes not that magical behaviour at all! If you don't get my point, listen to Heep live in San Diego, all that stuff about the girl and sweet, sweet... freedom :))) However, even when brutal or clumsy with their respective parts or as a band in its entirety, those guys were very authentic and funny. I also love all Heep, but tend to say that the albums since 1982 I rather like more or less while all of the earlier material I literally love with all my heart. Even without Byron there still was some kind of nerve, some touch of spontaniety and genuine inspiration that is missing in Mick's version of the band. However, I like some of his songs too, especially the likes of Too Scared To Run, Sell Your Soul, Bad Blood, Lost One Love, Playing For Time and On The Other Side Of Midnight - to me they prove how great Mick's band can be when they don't try to imitate that magical approach and show their true colours. In order to deliver it in a more poetical way, I prefer them to hit the nail right on the head than to make love in silence. :)))))
>>>>> All the best, Igor
>>>>> 
>>>>> Понедельник, 09 марта 2015, 23:17 UTC от Grace Clarke < bolan77 at rocketmail.com >:
>>>>> Hi Igor,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the Byron era just has that magical vibe. I'm a big Bolan fan too and I'm not sure if you know, but Marc Bolan is an incredible poet of a magical language. I think the Byron era sort of brings that magical atmosphere into classic rock music. Well written songs. Completely unique to any other band. David's charisma comes through in his vocals too. Really enjoyable to hear. Then the more ballad like songs bring tears to my eyes. It's a genuine feel. Very raw and rough round the edges but perfected to the max at the same time. If that's even possible.. Well it is with Heep! I love the Magician's Birthday and Demons & Wizards albums. Beautiful album art too by Roger Dean (one of my favourite surrealists) which seems to connect so well with the music itself. I love all Heep but there's something very special about these early albums. It's hard to explain how music makes me feel but I hope you get my drift with this one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Grace.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2015, at 22:55, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grace,
>>>>>> It would be nice to learn why the Byron era seems preferable to you.
>>>>>> Cheers, Igor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Igor Shveytser
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