[Heeplist] The Age Old Heep List Argument

Wed Mar 11 02:18:11 EDT 2015

Hi Scott,

I'm not in the hierarchy of the wise men and women on the Heep list but, I
think that David was a perfectionist, he set the bar very high for himself
and his band at the time, being # 2 was just not acceptable for him.
it really bothered him when Heeps competitors made it to  the A list.

It sure didn't help when Heep were always put down by the music industry .
He just could not accept any rejection or critisicm.
Every human is wired differently to be able to handle this.
I believe this was the catylist for his feelings of anger, moods swings and
even depression.
Adding solice in the bottle just added fuel to the fire that was burning
inside of him.
What happens next is many things, I'm sure everyone has their own list.
 Byron by nature is a pop/ rock artist, he sang The fantasy songs with no
complaint when Heep was riding high but, at the end he did start
questioning the direction of the music and unfortunately , the outcome
ended up with his pursuit of pop/ rock solo albums,
His own style and love.
Amazing singer, amazing range. Truly was a vocal instrument in the band.
Hensley might have had the turkey baking, the rest of the guys set the
dinner table but, Byron poured the wine and lit the candles to set the
ambience . :))))
I don't know, maybe Im wrong?

Don

On Tuesday, March 10, 2015, Scott Manion <scottmanion at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Igor,
> I answered your question when I said " We all love David's contributions
> and there will never be another"
> So I ask you how do you reconcile the fact that he quit?  A fact which
> David himself freely reveals over and over in interviews.  I've seen him
> say this and so have you.
>
> In your response below you don't answer to the reality of what happened
> with David that ultimately gets you to the point of endlessly comparing him
> to every other lead singer in the first place.  He quit the band.
> I understand completely your point of view that David's voice and
> everything else about him is 'magical' and does not compare to ANYONE else
> who replaced him...But no one NEEDED to replace him UNTIL HE QUIT.
>
> I agree his voice has incredible "magical charms' in Heep but then after 6
> years he quit Uriah Heep!
>
> Until you reveal your point of view on why he QUIT it's hard to understand
> your endless comparisons to singers who replaced David after he quit the
> band.
> While you reiterate routinely that 'no one is better than David' ...OK, we
> all understand that... and then what...he quit the band.
> Mick Box needed a new lead singer after the ONLY OTHER FOUNDING MEMBER OF
> Uriah Heep QUIT!
> This list is a group of purists and extreme fans of Heep.  They all know
> the history and are among the most knowledgeable and devoted fans of the
> band around the world.
> As a dedicated list member and equally devoted Heep Fan, what is your
> opinion on this specific topic:
>
> Why do you think David Byron QUIT Uriah Heep?
>
> Thanks for sharing your perspective with the list on this specific topic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Igor Shveitser
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:06 PM
> To: Heepsters Mailing List \(Travellers in Time\)
> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] The Age Old Heep List Argument
>
>  Scott,
> In order to get a proper answer to your last question, you should ask
> yourself a few more questions. :) How many songs and albums did David Byron
> record during his relatively short time with Heep? Was there even a single
> one which isn't classic to a true Heep lover? How unique his singing manner
> was, how many people were drawn to Heep's camp only because of his voice's
> magical charms? If you get to know the right answers and afterwards have
> them compared to the similar ones regarding Bernie (and some others) and
> his era, perhaps then you will stop wondering. :))))))))))))) Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Понедельник, 09 марта 2015, 18:56 -05:00 от "Scott Manion" <
> scottmanion at earthlink.net <javascript:;>>:
> >CLASSIC!
> >Bob, wonderfully done!  Laughing out loud on that one.
> >
> >I stand by two things from my post:
> >Mick Box has been true to his fans for 5 decades, getting new players
> >to keep the team [BAND] together.
> >And, secondly, Bernie is in the roll of Lead Singer for Uriah Heep...So
> >unless he is booted out of the band, he is the man to sing the songs!
> >
> >In the case of David, I believe HIS version of the story.  He quit
> >Uriah Heep.
> >
> >We all love his contributions and there will never be another but...
> >What if he believed as much as all of us?
> >What if he cared as deeply about Uriah Heep as we all do and continued
> >on with the band?
> >Can you imagine the long flowing grey hair of David and Mick on the
> >same stage together now?  We'd all be moved to tears by most of the songs!
> >
> >But he quit.  After 6 years he lost the faith in the band, it's
> >direction and it's future.
> >When I see the passion and 'ownership' of the Uriah Heep material by
> >Bernie, a man who has committed his musical career to representing
> >Uriah Heep around the world, I often wonder why this list spends so
> >much time celebrating the Byron  'half decade' over the last
> (soon-to-be)  40 years without him.
> >
> >Let the beat down begin!
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf
> >Of Bob Winward
> >Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:34 AM
> >To: Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
> >Subject: Re: [Heeplist] The Age Old Heep List Argument
> >
> >1976 Yankees were good, but swept by the Cinncinatti Reds in the World
> >Series.  Horrible time, I was sick for 2 days with the flu, in college
> >and not far from Cinncinatti.  I think if you want to pick some great
> >Yankee Teams, maybe 1978, 1996 and the legendary 1927 team.  1927 was
> >the Box, Hensley, Thain, Byron lineup for the Yankees, Ruth and Gehrig.
> >Gehrig played bass, first base that is!!
> >
> >
> >On 3/8/15 9:24 PM, "Scott Manion" < scottmanion at earthlink.net
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >I met a guy at the Milwaukee show and his first words to me were "It's
> >just
> >> not the same without Byron."  I stifled a laugh.
> >I asked him if he knew when
> >> Byron left the band.  He wasn't sure.
> >I told him 1976...and next year will
> >> mark the 40th anniversary of David Byron NOT being in Uriah Heep.
> >
> >These
> >> arguments about the olden days are as relevant as watching old
> >> re-runs of your favorite sports team back in the 70's and endlessly
> >> arguing that nobody will ever be better than the 1976 New York
> >> Yankees!  (I don't even know if they were good that year but you can
> >> get the idea.)
> >
> >I agree with Doug.  Teams get
> >> new players.  And though I might 'long to be in the stadium' when
> >> Babe Ruth (American Baseball Icon from the 30's) hits one out of the
> >> park, I can still enjoy baseball now without feeling that it's an
> >> injustice that others have filled Babe's shoes.
> >
> >Mick Box has been true to his fans for 5 decades,
> >> getting new players to keep the team together.
> >Every year this band continues
> >> to tour the world and put out music is a cause for celebration.
> >
> >The only
> >> thing missing from a lot of these posts is the phrase  "Back in my
> >day...."
> >>
> >I'm certain we all have the ability to accept and tolerate change!
> >> Especially with a band that has been around for 45 years.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >-
> >
> >
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