[Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

Tue Nov 18 16:00:52 EST 2014

 Madman,
Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is the difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only prove what I make of it.
Igor

Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
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> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the difference.
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>MADMAN
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>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever 
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>From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
>To:  "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
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> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician, ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That is what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't respond and try to be polite, at least.
>Cheers, Igor
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>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to it. For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self proclaimed critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all others. I will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter. With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head off in the van. 
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>>MADMAN 
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>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER 
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>>----- Original Message -----
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>>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net > 
>>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com > 
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM 
>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation) 
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>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to be 
>>saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 era Uriah 
>>Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from another recent 
>>post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone. 
>>
>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep is 
>>better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as I doubt 
>>anyone will say that. 
>>
>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah Heep 
>>that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate the past, 
>>yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full) 
>>
>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such point 
>>into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop left, lol 
>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and such 
>>shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate the past and 
>>reject the now? 
>>
>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now that does 
>>live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan of? As some of us 
>>over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list? 
>>
>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current band? 
>>
>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure out why 
>>you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over on a list of 
>>fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are naked on hands and 
>>knees and every time get spanked, have to scream out "Thank you sir, may I 
>>please have some more"? 
>>
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>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote: 
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>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as Uriah Heep, 
>>> I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of Heep plays pretty much 
>>> the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 80-s, and I can't see where they 
>>> are being experimental :) The compositions are good, but they are made in 
>>> accordance to several musical models, patterns,whatever you call them. Gypsy 
>>> was different, but that's another band and another story altogether. 
>>Cheers, 
>>> Igor 
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