[Heeplist] Tedious Criticism and bourish behaviour

Scott Manion scottmanion at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 18 20:01:30 EST 2014 

Seriously?
To all of us middle-aged Heep fans out there  arguing about the absolute minutia of the band?

Igor...you certainly drive 'content' and traffic on the site given that you will answer EVERYONE,  regardless of their perspective and typically take the provocative side of the their perspective...which drives yet more content....

If bantering with everyone and driving more content is 'mission accomplished' for Igor I have to ask...Bob, is Igor secretly on the payroll? 

He just quoted the Oxford Fucking Dictionary for God's Sake! 

Is this a new low for a bunch of 40-65 year olds who just want to talk about the band?

I'll wait for posts about the tour and others who deliver information that is important to us like the Tapio post about the second edition of the Byron book and steer clear of the others....unless Igor is on the payroll...then I'll support by arguing endlessly about the old versus new...as I've said earlier...
On and endless loop....
Till the end of time.....

Scott

  

-----Original Message-----
From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf Of Igor Shveitser
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:16 PM
To: merrick3 at comcast.net; Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Criticism and bourish behaviour

 Merrick, I do.
>From the Oxford dictionary:
call someone names 3
Insult  someone  verbally : a  lot  of  people  called him names and I was one of them

You definitely meant someone certain while hiding behind your regular mask, and I honestly don't like such behaviour and do not care whether you meant anyone on the list, this is just plain bourish regarding anyone who has an argumented opinion, as well as your position in general.  And don't you try to pretend these words of yours -   ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick -  were not an insult no matter if you mention the addressee or not.
Cheers, Igor


Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>
>Igor i did not call anyone any name, I was making a point of critics, criticism, over opinionated comments in general. Now do you see a any names attached to my comment?
>
>Here let me help you out here,,,, NO! you do not ,,
>
>MADMAN
>
>p.s. URIAH HEEP forer
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
>To:  merrick3 at comcast.net, "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:00:52 PM
>Subject:  Criticism and bourish behaviour
>
>Madman,
>Sorry, but we haven't finished here with you calling people names and saying how much you care about other persons' opinion.
>What is the difference? I'd like to see how you state your case. In my opinion, it is you who's ego is fragile: I just pinpointed certain things not to your liking, you responded with swear words. In my eyes, that is the difference between constructive and bourish. Of course, I don't expect much, and the regular blah-blah-blah stuff  will be enough and only prove what I make of it.
>Igor
>
>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:59 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>
>> ( SELF OPINIONATED CRITIC) or ( SNARKY ASSHOLE) take your pick. There is a difference between Constructive and asshole criticism. I know the difference.
>>
>>MADMAN
>>
>>p.s. URIAH HEEP forever
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>From:  "Igor Shveitser" <zlenko_iv at mail.ru>
>>To:  "heeplist" <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>>Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:57:39 AM
>>Subject:  Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>>
>> Like it or not, any opinion, whether it belongs to some self-proclaimed critic on the list (I still wonder who might that be :))), musician, ordinary listener or three of them in one (as the case may be), or just some crazy fan, is valid if you have anything constructive to say. That is what people communicate for, if you don't like it - well, just don't respond and try to be polite, at least.
>>Cheers, Igor
>>
>>
>>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) от merrick3 at comcast.net:
>>>I think the new Heep line up is great. To me it is like apples and oranges trying to say if this line up is better than 1972. For me it is what am I in the mood for. I think this line up is great , now I have a solution for some ok. If you don't like the new line up don't listen to it. For me as a Heep fan listening to this band thru the years with the many different line ups and the many different albums to listen to makes me smile. If I want to hear older Heep i put it on, I find my self listening to a lot of the Bernie Era stuff now. It is funny how many self proclaimed critics there are , like their opinion is somehow valid above all others. I will say it again, you don't like the new heep don't listen to it. Like I need validation of what real Uriah Heep is HA HA. There will always be over opinionated critics in every aspect of life but it really doesn't matter. With that being said I will be listening to Outsider today when I head off in the van. 
>>>
>>>MADMAN
>>>
>>>p.s. URIAH HEEP FOREVER
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>From: "Bob Winward" < uriahheep at comcast.net >
>>>To: "heeplist" < heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:55:34 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] Heeplist] No apologizes (translation)
>>>
>>>I get Igor's point now and I know many do not agree. What he seems to 
>>>be saying is current Uriah Heep is a watered down version of the 1972 
>>>era Uriah Heep, with only one original member left. I got that from 
>>>another recent post where he says Trevor and Lee are gone.
>>>
>>>Now I ask, is there anyone on the list that thinks current Uriah Heep 
>>>is better than the 1972 verison? Ok, that is a rhetorical question as 
>>>I doubt anyone will say that.
>>>
>>>The majority of us feel we are lucky that there is a version of Uriah 
>>>Heep that makes us happy and puts out great new music. We celebrate 
>>>the past, yet embrace the "now" (our Heep glasses are half full)
>>>
>>>So Igor while you have a valid point, you continue to belabor such 
>>>point into ad nauseam. Your help glass is half empty or maybe a drop 
>>>left, lol
>>>:-)) I do have a question, if they are so bad and so watered down and 
>>>such shells of their former selves, why are you here? To celebrate 
>>>the past and reject the now?
>>>
>>>One last question, do you have a band in mind that is playing now 
>>>that does live up to your expectations and that you are a huge fan 
>>>of? As some of us over obsessed, pie in the sky Heep fans on the list?
>>>
>>>Perhaps I should simply rephrase: Are you a fanatic of any current band? 
>>>
>>>Just aksing here, not trying to cause trouble, only trying to figure 
>>>out why you bash the current incarnation of Uriah Heep over and over 
>>>on a list of fans? Are we to be college fraternity pledges who are 
>>>naked on hands and knees and every time get spanked, have to scream 
>>>out "Thank you sir, may I please have some more"?
>>>
>>>
>>>On 11/17/14 4:47 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote: 
>>>
>>>> We are talking at cross purposes, Merrick: you treat all that as 
>>>> Uriah Heep, I obviously do not. Still, the latest modification of 
>>>> Heep plays pretty much the same AOR/modern hard rock since the late 
>>>> 80-s, and I can't see where they are being experimental :) The 
>>>> compositions are good, but they are made in accordance to several 
>>>> musical models, patterns,whatever you call them. Gypsy was different, but that's another band and another story altogether.
>>>Cheers,
>>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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