[Heeplist] Outsider revisited

Tue Nov 11 14:05:00 EST 2014

Hi Igor,
Sorry I was just out chopping some wood for my wood stove :)))
Ok I see where your going with your point.
Guys, sorry and gals!
Enjoying my coffee reading the list this morning!
Great Theatre! :)))
I wonder if MADMAN is enjoying his coffee!
D

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  Gentlemen,
> It's not about "penned by Hensley" or not, it's more about "when" and
> which musicians took part in the recording/performance. That's why Between
> Two Worlds ( a good song indeed for 1998) hardly will make it to the
> compilation of the very best of Heep/Heep-related and neither will do Ken's
> songs of that time. Different era, different chemistry, much less original.
> I will give you one example: BTW starts with keyboard intro which quite
> reminds of something from... The Gods (!), and another great track from the
> album, Shelter from... yes, the Rain (got one more song dedicated to that
> weather condition!!!!) :)))) suspiciously reminds of smth made by Wishbone
> Ash plus ... Weep In Silence. I hope, you got my point.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:27:07 -0800 от Don Malecic <docofun at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
> >I agree with you Bob, Heep has written a lot of great music without the
> pen
> >of Hensley ,
> >From SOL to Outsider.
> >Yes all Heep is good Heep, I won't dare mention the C word! :)))
> >Yes and all box is good Box works for me as well .
> >D
> >
> >On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Bob Winward < uriahheep at comcast.net
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >
> >> You can say what ever you want
> >> It still says Uriah Heep on the Outsider and not one of them is a cover.
> >> Even in 1972, it was not the same Heep that started in 1970. They had
> their
> >> 3rd bass player and 5th? Drummer by then.  By 1977 they only had 2
> original
> >> members.  Mick does have legal rights to the name, the band has evolved
> and
> >> they continually put out new music.  Some of this new music is as good
> as
> >> the old stuff.  Between 2 Worlds is one of Heep’s geates songs that
> Hensley
> >> did not pen.  Shaw and Lanzon will have 30 years in the band after next
> >> year.
> >>
> >> Since they continue to put out new music, we can celebrate what was, but
> >> embrace what is!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/10/14 12:33 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Bob,
> >> > I respect any opinion, but see it myself  from quite a different
> angle:
> >> Phil
> >> > Lanzon, Bernie Shaw, Russel Gilbrook, Davey Rimmer plus Mick Box
> mostly
> >> play
> >> > the songs, initially written and performed live by Hensley, Byron, Box
> >> etc.. -
> >> > I intentionally, on purpose, name the former band members in the
> order of
> >> > their contribution to the music of classic Heep. The only similarity
> >> between
> >> > the bands is the name plus the figure of lead guitarist, who is, of
> >> course,
> >> > still great and perhaps even better than ever... but we all know it
> ain't
> >> > enough to even come close to "that" Heep from all points of view. And
> I
> >> > wouldn't compare the two: this band, as I stated many times before,
> has
> >> its
> >> > own unique style; it shines, regarding studio work, on the modern rock
> >> skies
> >> > no worse than the legend did in the 70-s.  But when it comes to live
> >> concerts,
> >> > modern Heep, - perhaps, not intentionally but still it's a fact -
> >> competes
> >> > with that band playing live the likes of Gypsy, July Morning etc. and,
> >> in my
> >> > eyes loses in almost every way. Having Lee and Trevor it was a bit
> >> different
> >> > 'cause they knew better how to play Heep music properly. Having Mr.
> >> Lawton on
> >> > stage made it even better - John is the singer, I tell ya' :))) Having
> >> said
> >> > that, I still enjoy the Outsider and would love to see it played live
> in
> >> all
> >> > it entirety while most of the classics should be left out for they
> truly
> >> do
> >> > not belong to this band and in their "reading" the songs are nothing
> but
> >> > covers really.
> >> > Cheers, Igor
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:07:12 -0500 от Bob Winward <
> uriahheep at comcast.net <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>>:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I do not agree, a cover band, covers the material of others.  Uriah
> Heep
> >> >> continues to produce fresh new vibrant music!!  They may not sound as
> >> great
> >> >> as 70's Heep but they have evolved and from what I see, Outsider is
> >> highly
> >> >> enjoyed and accepted by most fans.
> >> >>
> >> >> In contrast, you could take Styx, an oldies cover band who plays old
> >> songs.
> >> >> Their last cd was a cd of covers right?  No new music.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Bob "All Heep is good Heep" Winward
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 11/10/14 7:51 AM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> >> < /compose?To=zlenko_iv at mail.ru <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> >
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> >   With him they finally turned into what Heep became ages
> >> >>> > ago - a very professional cover band with one original member.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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