[Heeplist] Conquest

Tue Sep 23 17:14:03 EDT 2014

Guys,
I have no problem with any singer imitating whomever, look at all the
guitar players.
How many of them have that same power stance they all use?
We'll exept for maybe Page, who at times looks like he's caressing his
guitar and about to make love to it.
The fact still remains that Sloman couldn't deliver the goods that Heep
required as their singer.
He was a temp.
Not to say that he couldn't fit in another group and do perfectly fine. :))
And I am not even going to say he is a bad singer, I don't think that was a
fair judgement on my part, but his style was not for Heep, he could be a
good fit elsewhere.
D

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

>  When accused of imitating that front man, David Coverdale said smth like,
> look, if you look a bit closer at Roger Daltrey you will see that Plant
> borrowed almost everything from him. I believe, this isn't uncommon for
> rock, but the singing is more important than image, and here, in John
> Sloman, we have a very different kettle of fish.
> Cheers, Igor
>
>
> Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:50:30 -0500 от Kevin Milanowski <11scorpio06 at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
> >I just watched the video and Johns moves are definitely imitating those
> of a very young Robert Plant... no doubt about it!
> >On Sep 23, 2014 2:46 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >> Plant was different, voice-wise also. But there shouldn't be any
> comparison, they belong to different eras and have 10 years age difference.
> :)))
> >>Cheers, Igor
> >>
> >>
> >>Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:15:11 -0700 от Dale Fredericks <
> dalhel at sbcglobal.net <javascript:;> >:
> >>>Sorry Igor, but his stage presence seems to be an exact replica of what
> was already done by Robert Plant, even down to the posturing of the body
> and hands. Not impressed.
> >>>
> >>>Dale :-)>
> >>>
> >>>On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Igor Shveitser <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------- Пересылаемое сообщение --------
> >>>> От кого: Igor Shveitser <  zlenko_iv at mail.ru <javascript:;> >
> >>>> Кому: Heepsters Mailing List \(Travellers in Time\) <
> heeplist at travellersintime.com <javascript:;> >
> >>>> Дата: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:24:06 +0400
> >>>> Тема: Re[2]: [Heeplist] Conquest
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob,
> >>>> I do appreciate the fact of your support but the truth is John Sloman
> has nerver been the one with a crap voice. Comparing him with some electric
> bard is rock blasphomy to me :) Sloman's vocals are more than decent, he
> had a marvelous stage presence, and here's one more proof:   Lone Star
> VIDEO BBC In Concert 1977 complete
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrdvpa1uQ0>
> >>>> All the best, Igor
> >>>> P.S. Sloman, unlike a lot of singers in rock, is special. He was
> never the best choice for Heep, but then again, we don't know what had the
> band in mind when they decided to invite him. Anyway, Conquest is anything
> but not an album without inspiration or imagination. That's why it is still
> Heep, while your average Heep of the 80-s, despite all the qualities of the
> players, is mostly mechanical down to earth stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:57:38 -0400 от Bob Winward <
> uriahheep at comcast.net <javascript:;> >:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pete, I do not think Igor was joking.  You know some people do like
> music
> >>>>> with crap voices.  How do you explain the popularity still of Bruce
> >>>>> Springsteen?  He still sells out Stadiums in the USA and has his own
> channel
> >>>>> on satellite radio.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Putting aside the lead vocals, the music is great, punchy and rocks.
> >>>>> Nothing Heep has done beats the opening riffs of Feelings  I know
> you don't
> >>>>> like the song "..and you don't even care to pretend"  lol!  Some of
> the
> >>>>> bonus tracks are really growing on me.  Anyone notice how powerful,
> loud and
> >>>>> pronounced Trevor's bass is on Love Stealer?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Equator is a different record, the vocals are good, but the lyrics
> are
> >>>>> juvinile and it sounds less like Heep with back ground vocals and
> choir.
> >>>>> Different World, well it sounded like Heep was trying to get hit
> singles
> >>>>> again, and they recorded 10 straight.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/18/14 6:33 PM, "Pete Wharton" <   heeplistpete at ntlworld.com
> <javascript:;> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You know on my 4 hour drive to work on Monday, I forced myself to
> listen to
> >>>>>> this album again and then the mailing list rarities vol 2 with John
> Lawton.
> >>>>>> I'm sorry Igor, but I really do not understand how you can say "
> However,
> >>>>>> quality wise, mood wise that was still on the level of better Heep
> works"
> >>>>>> about Conquest. I'm sorry but the CD is below the level of
> Different World
> >>>>>> quality wise. Trevor never got time to do decent production on that
> and
> >>>>>> Conquest just plain sucks with crap vocals and I can't find any
> redeeming
> >>>>>> features on that CD at all. It's like Sloman can't hold a note so
> he fakes it
> >>>>>> by going to a different one. Any decent songs have been lost in the
> morass of
> >>>>>> Sloman's abysmal vocals! Even Equator stands head and shoulders
> above this
> >>>>>> waste of effort.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pete
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
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