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Mon Sep 15 15:21:36 EDT 2014

Excellent, I'm Canadian and it's nice to hear our guitars are getting noticed.  Mick loves his Carparelli. SR

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From: Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> 
Date:09/15/2014  12:15 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca> 
Subject: Re[2]: : Re[2]: [Heeplist] (no subject) 

Well, I agree, but each instrument has its limitations and the most skilled ones are just able to make it least noticeable. Still, I have my favourites: if I play at high gain it is Peavey Tracer Custom'89, if the stuff is more classical hard'n'heavy kind, than they are either G&L Tribute Legacy or Godin Session - both are strats basically, but the Canadian guitar has a humbucker in the bridge and ceramic pickups while Legacy is just like your regular Fender (due to the same constructor), albeit heavier, because it was made of Swamp Ash.
Cheers, Igor

Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:57:07 -0700 от Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
I think it was Mick Ronson that said it's not the guitar, it's what you can do with the guitar. He never had a guitar that he really cherished.

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From: Igor Shveitser 
Date:09/15/2014 8:45 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: Shaun Roberge 
Subject: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: [Heeplist] (no subject) 

Cool. I've seen the likes of your "Rosie" when my daughter was looking for a new guitar (she ended up buying a Canadian-made Godin with active picups as well), but I have no idea about the rest of your lot.  As for me,  I play various guitars, mostly strats (although got no real Fender yet), but the funny thing is the more I learned, the more I understood that the make and model are very inferior  to your hands and head :))) Yes, there is a difference - but not worth hundreds and thousands, it's more like the more you learn, the less it matters (if you respective axe isn't a complete garbage, of course). However, my experience tells me that you can improve a lot on it yourself.
Cheers, Igor

Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:53:54 -0700 от Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
Ya I can distinguish the solos.  For an electric I have a Hohner arch top and acoustic I have a Madera, cheap guitar with great tone.  I also play alot of bass, I have an epiphone Beatle bass and an active ibanez sr500 that I call rosie.  I would have more but lack of funds keep getting in the way. My next purchase will probably be a fender mustang or jaguar.

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From: Igor Shveitser 
Date:09/15/2014 7:39 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: Shaun Roberge 
Subject: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: [Heeplist] (no subject) 

Great! Have you already learnt how to distinguish where's Mr.Box and where's Mr. Hensley playing the solos? By the way, what is your guitar?
Cheers, Igor

Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:32:16 -0700 от Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
Your right Igor,  I was listening to those albums last night. Unbelievable musicianship.   Byron sure was something special. I'll definitely start learning those tracks. SR

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From: Igor Shveitser  
Date:09/15/2014 3:34 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: Shaun Roberge 
Subject: Re[2]: Re[2]: Re[2]: [Heeplist] (no subject) 

Shaun, if you play a guitar, try playing Dreamer off the 1973 Heep's release Sweet Freedom - I believe you will soon find out that Mick Box was not that humble at times. :) Both He and Ken had terrific solos on I won't Mind (off Wonderworld) and Free'n'Easy (Innocent Victim).
Cheers, Igor

Sun, 14 Sep 2014 18:50:48 -0700 от Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
If you really listen to those doom and gloomers they play three chords with verse, chorus and bridge.  Basic rock n roll with distortion.  But I agree, Heep was right to stay away. SR

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From: Igor Shveitser 
Date:09/14/2014 8:46 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Shaun Roberge 
Subject: Re[2]: Re[2]: [Heeplist] (no subject) 

Synth? :))) Originally rock (rock'n'roll) was a piano-driven music (along with guitars), then hammond organ joined in, as for the modern synths - they add colours here and there but are not typical as leading instruments. The major difference between the 80-s heavy and what emerged later is that guitarists of the 80-s were virtuosos (no matter like 'em or not) and direct heirs to the classics like Blackmore, Iommi or anyone else I value. And the 90-s... there was nothing rock'n'rolling, more punk/doom as I call it. Classic Heep luckily never had any relation to that. And even not classic neither had - apart from some Bolder-penned items (Fear Of Falling, smth. off ITW)  which I do not fancy really. Classic Heep is a special and extremely kind music, without that doomy-gloomy component, with certain dynamics. And it was rock'n'roll and still is to some extent, luckily.
Cheers, Igor

Sun, 14 Sep 2014 08:09:50 -0700 от Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
You hit the nail right on the head once again Igor. I'm a guitarist and I really appreciate some of the 90s guitarists like Tom Morello, John Frusciante , Jerry Cantrell and Mike Mcreedy.  I find the music was more guitar driven than synth.

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From: Igor Shveitser 
Date:09/14/2014 2:54 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Shaun Roberge ,"Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" 
Subject: Re[2]: [Heeplist] (no subject)

Hey Shaun,
I think I get the general idea, and the obvious difference for me is the times we grew up in, mine were the 80-s, and, while liking some of the stuff (late McCartney, Queen, Deep Purple or Black Sabbath) and loving heavy metal (too many to mention) I strongly disliked the likes of Nirvana, Alice In Chains etc. - to me they are simply merchants of depression and bore. But hey, as you say, that's only me. :))))))))))
Cheers, Igor

Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:47:00 -0700 от Shaun Roberge <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
I'll agree with you there Igor.  I mostly listen to Byron and Bernie. I find that most music from the eighties, whether it be Heep, ZZ top or Paul McCartney doesn't have the same feelings and passion as the sixties and seventies. I feel that it was alternative rock or "grunge" that music started having meaning again. But hey, That's me! SR.

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From: Igor Shveitser
Date:09/13/2014  2:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: "Heepsters Mailing List \(Travellers in Time\)" 
Subject: Re: [Heeplist] (no subject) 

Shaun,
I'd rather not confuse 80-s with and without Hensley, for they are very different 80-s :))) But I get the point, and in that case you hardly should listen anything after 1974. :))) As for me, I regard all stuff recorded with Byron as great (without Heep as well), and the rest... there are highs and lows, of course, but musically they were still reminiscent of THAT band only with Hensley.
Cheers, Igor

Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:08:04 -0700 от Shaun R <roberge_rocket at yahoo.ca>:
>I'm with you Don. I've only been on the list for a few weeks and its been nothing but firefly and conquest.  I wanna hear about the glory days like demons or magicians or even outsider.  The eighties in general really let me down. SR
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