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Igor Shveitser zlenko_iv at mail.ru
Mon Aug 18 11:11:52 EDT 2014 

 This is a tough question, Bob. On one hand, this version of the band has been re-discovering Heep classics for a lot of new fans and it is a good thing. Even me, I first showed my interest in the band back in 1988 after reading in some fab Soviet magazine that they were the first rock group from the West to play in Moscow for 10 sold-out dates in a row! However, I had a good guide who at once corrected my suggestion that UH is
"Mick Box and some other musicians", he played Look At Yourself and Wonderworld to me, I was shocked. After getting to hear "Live in Moscow" feelings were quite different, and I realized at once this isn't a true Heep. Still, thought I,thanks to them for playing the classics. My attitude changed significantly after 1995 and 1998 albums, they, unlike the predecessors, did the trick for me, although I still didn't like when they played The Wizard or Lady In Black... They are a good band, but if after Byron Heep lost a huge part of their magic, after parting company with Ken they've absolutely lost validity to be called Uriah Heep. I realize that Mick Box isn't Jimmy Page or Blackmore who could easily do without their famous bands just being themselves. They are famous, he isn't, and all he had apart from the talent was the name which in turn, was quite famous. Almost the same happenned to Tony Iommi and his Black Sabbath or Andy Powell of Wishbone Ash fame - they also weren't brave enough to carry on as solo artists. I think, the way things are suits most of the band' members both past and present: if I get it right, one still gets his royalties for the material reisssued and played live "by Uriah Heep", the others have a great moneymaking vehicle.
Cheers, Igor

Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:03:25 -0400 от Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net>:
>I do not think Pete was saying Bernie is better than David.  He only said
>Bernie did the material justice.  Also in Bernies defense, David was already
>gone when Bernie joined Heep.  So you are saying Heep should have shut down
>like LZ did when their drummer passed away????
>
>
>On 8/17/14 1:11 PM, "Igor Shveitser" < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
>
>>  Just have done as you recommended, Pete. To my ears, his voice is a) too much
>> American to be a real Heep voice b) has some harsh overtones c) lacks natural
>> vibrato that Byron had. Plus, which is the most important, his is obviously a
>> different kind of tenor than the one David was. His rather high F and A notes
>> of the first octave are more suitable for some country ballad because of their
>> harshness and nasal sound while Byron did it softly, using falsetto and not
>> pushing too hard on his vocal chords. But then again, they are just different
>> kind of tenors. Even Ken Hensley in his prime was more authentic with that one
>> then Bernie has ever been.
>Cheers. Igor
>
>
>
>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:41:58 +0100 от
>> "Pete Wharton" < heeplistpete at ntlworld.com >:
>>Haven't had time lately to
>> comment on most of the posts, but in Bernie's defence, I couldn't let this one
>> go. Igor, take another listen to Bernie singing Rain. Try the one on Future
>> Echoes for example, but any version he does is good. In fact there have been
>> times I've had to check which album the version I was listening to was from as
>> it could so easily have been David.
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>-----Original
>> Message-----
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>> Behalf Of Igor Shveitser
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>>
>> Although I generally feel most classic songs sung by Shaw become
>> lame and insincere, that one is good. At least, he is definitely better with
>> singing John's stuff than David's. But overall he is much better with the
>> likes of Time Of Revelation. :)))) Cheers, Igor
>>
>>
>>Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:22:52
>> -0500 от Shawn Mctopy <  shawn.mctopy at selu.edu >:
>>>The acoustic guitars on the
>> song *'Fallen Angel'* are good ... real good!
>>>
>>>
>>>I love the version of
>> *'Come Back To Me'* that is on the *'ACOUSTICALLY
>>>DRIVEN'* album. I really
>> love that album, and I can't say enough great
>>>things about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On
>> Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:22 PM, I.barnes3 <  I.barnes3 at ntlworld.com >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great track is fallen angel Bob. Great story about taking
>> everything
>>>> plus the dog. Mine left the dog ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Iain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From:
>> Bob Winward <  uriahheep at comcast.net >
>>>> Date:12/08/2014  20:33
>> (GMT+00:00)
>>>> To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" <
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>>  heeplist at travellersintime.com >
>>>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] 2]: Heeplist] (no
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>>>>
>>>> My favorite track is Fallen Angel, I just love the accoustic
>> guitar
>>>> effect, it sounds layered.  Come Back to Me, is powerful and it
>> took
>>>> on new meaning for me in 2008 when Lee told me the story and it was
>>
>>>> real.  The whole house was empty and she even took the dog!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> On 8/12/14 10:53 AM, "Shawn Mctopy" <  shawn.mctopy at selu.edu > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>> > I love the tunes - *'Woman Of The Night'*, *'Falling In Love'*, and
>>>> >
>> the title track -* 'Fallen Angel'*.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Actually, I like the
>> complete album, as well as all three of the
>>>> > albums featuring John
>> Lawton.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > John Lawton is an extremely powerful singer, as he
>> can really belt
>>>> > out a tune!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at
>> 6:47 AM, Bob Winward <
>>>> >  uriahheep at comcast.net >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>
>> >>
>>>> >> What about Fallen Angel?  Arguably, one of Heep's best produced
>> lps.
>>>> That
>>>> >> would had all the markings of top 40, plenty of singles,
>> sound
>>>> >> effects, solos, lively tunes.  That should have been the lp to
>>
>>>> >> appeal to the masses!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 8/11/14 5:17 PM, "Don Malecic"
>> <  docofun at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> You guys will probably crap on me
>> for this .
>>>> >> I was going to say, the most Heep
>>>> >>> albums played in
>> my household is anything
>>>> >> pre Return to Fantasy and everything
>>>> >>>
>> after Sea of light.
>>>> >> Although Innocent, Firefly, Abominog and Headfirst
>> were
>>>> >>> all great albums,
>>>> >> things got a little too murky for me in
>> the middle.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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