[Heeplist] An artist in rock and financial success

Mon Jul 21 16:48:31 EDT 2014

 No doubt Mick Box is a sympathetic person. I also came to this conclusion, he's very friendly with fans and overall cheerful. Very true is the presence of his own sound, too - and in all arguments I always say he's as great as any Blackmore/Page/Iommi/whoever-of-the-lot due to this unique recognizable feature: "wah-tone" of his as well as his typical harmonies. However you can't be serious making parallels: LZ was a classic band of four great individuals, UH were the same of five, - but that was then! Losing only one LZ decided they can't carry on as that very classic band under that very name while Mr.Box thought different. The outcome is that  from 1982 Heep is a very different beast, not really classic, with many faces, some are quite attractive, some are... not that attractive and really hated by the old Heep fans. I was never crazy about Goalby or Shaw era. At least when I was introduced to UH I was sure this band and its name is an evil joke on that great classic Heep. But since then a lot of water passed under the bridge - and now I am more tolerant and think for many the existence of 80-90-s Heep was the key to the great legacy. And I like most of their modern material although not in every detail especially since the drums are very "metallic"(prog-metallic, whatever it is, the style is improper for Heep), very unlike Lee. But Mick knows better what is necessary for his band, I believe :))))))))))))))) Still we must salute him, his hard working cheerful approach made that finally his Heep perhaps is more critically acclaimed then the original one - the times they are a changin' :)
Cheers, Igor

Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:30:52 +0200 от Terje Pedersen <terjped at hotmail.com>:
>Mick Box is THE man....the one and only reason Heep survived through the years. 
>The discussion about bands doing it for the money, well..of course they do..its how they make a living. But for guys like Mick its not only that, I think he would still be rocking even if he was a multi trillionair.
>Mick is a gentleman and the sweetest guy in Rock without a doubt, I had the pleasure of changing a few words with him a couple times and I cant say it enough, what a guy.  Was kinda surprised once back in the 80`s though when he just handed me his glass from stage, I downed it of course and it turned out to be straight vodka lol  got me Mick.. 
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>PS: He is of course also a brilliant brilliant guitar player, not many got their own sound anymore..Mick does.
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>Terje
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heeplist [mailto:heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com] On Behalf Of Don Malecic
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:30 PM
>To: Igor Shveitser; Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time); Igor Shveitser; Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)
>Subject: Re: [Heeplist] An artist in rock and financial success
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>Let's leave money aside. Egos have created bands, egos have destroyed bands and egos have kept bands apart, The difference is what a man ( rock star) is made of. For example:
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>I believe in my own mind that the reason  UH is still together is because of Mick Box.
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>Mick loves his band  and his fan base. His legacy is truly to keep Heep together and his personnel desire is to create and achieve greater music for his fans to enjoy.
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>If you really study Micks personality, character and attitude towards his own band members, other musicians, music writers, fans etc. you would find a truly genuine selfless person.
>I have read many of his blogs where he is always praising other musicians and what a great sound they have .
>My point, you can build a machine, but you can't build a man.
>Don't get me wrong, I enjoy LZ . But really, Let's get the Led out. Surely they would be able to scratch a few more tunes out for their fans. Or, are their egos in the way?
>Don
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>On Monday, July 21, 2014, Igor Shveitser < zlenko_iv at mail.ru > wrote:
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>>  Hello,
>> I don't know why but my reply's still waiting for some moderation, so 
>> I put it here in a different letter.
>> Don,
>> That's a brilliant question! Thank you for it for you made me think 
>> and I like the process enormously. :))) If I get the point right, the 
>> thing is, first of all, who's that very artist and, secondly, was he 
>> doing it more for the money than because he reallly wanted to say something to us all.
>> With rock music I see it that way: initially they come on stage 
>> because hands are itching and they really have to say something 
>> importand. And dreams of fame and fortune, of course. So what happens 
>> when it all comes true? Musicians get  full, they've already shared 
>> with public all that rock'n'roll allowed them, outcome of many jams and some personal ideas.
>> Also bear in mind, people get tired of each other. Where do I lead? My 
>> point is that even an extremely successful artist (collective) in rock 
>> music gets exhausted, at least creatively, in 5-10 years. After that 
>> they all repeat themselves - and hardly it is art the way it was 
>> initially, because that is done mostly for the money and for the sake 
>> of touring in some cases. I believe, LZ just didn't need none of the 
>> above by 1980, so the decision to call it a day was an easy one. In my 
>> eyes, with Heep it was a different story altogether, but not with Ken 
>> Hensley. I don't want to sound like any of the parts of Heep are still 
>> doing it only for the money, but it is sure the most important factor 
>> they are still on stage with the same music. Page, Plant, Blackmore or 
>> late Jon Lord all had been having a different kind of carreer since 
>> their respective bands ceased to exist, so I take, they were all 
>> really at liberty to go different ways while our heroes have no such option: they have to carry on as "Heep" or "ex-Heep"
>> with all that relates to this status.
>> Cheers, Igor
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>> Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:54:02 -0700 от Don Malecic < docofun at gmail.com
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>> >Yup, the blues influence did help them in North America , no doubt 
>> >about
>> it . Does a artist stop creating his paintings after they have made it 
>> financially successful ?
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>> --
>> Igor Shveytser
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