[Heeplist] This list is bouncing all over the place

Bob Winward uriahheep at comcast.net
Tue May 27 07:20:01 EDT 2014 

Esa, so great to see you post and share your indepth knowledge of the topic.
I hope the list admins take note.
In the meantime, is there anything we can do on our ends, setting changes
etc.  It appears that anytime someone posts a major link or news, I do not
see that post unless someone replies, then I see it below.
I am not seeing any of Jays posts first hand.  I also did not see Dave
Boothby's post about the Trevor tribute on VH1 until Ed replied to it.  Yet
I get emails offlist from Dave of the wilkesbooth band with no problem.

I use one of the USA's largest internet providers (Comcast) and to read the
emails Microsoft Entourage which was part of Mac office 2008

PS, it is very ironic, that we go to a website with the initials TiT and the
only bouncing we see is emails, lol!!!


On 5/23/14 6:35 PM, "Esa Ahola" <esa at ahola.net> wrote:

> Folks, the chronic bounce issues are due to server-side factors:  the list
> is hosted from a dedicated or shared web hosting server  -- the same one
> that hosts http://travellersintime.com an its forums,  Running mailing
> lists from such environments has become increasingly difficult because web
> hosting environments are often exploited for spam and malware attacks, and
> ISPs' countermeasures take that into account by treating those entire
> network segments as suspect.
> 
> The hosting server IP also appears in a couple of advisory spam blacklists
> at the moment, which is the likeliest cause of the recent issues.  There
> are procedures for removal that the list admins should follow.
> 
> Our list admins could also help the situation somewhat by configuring
> domain authentication measures for the travellersintime.com domain. Gmail,
> for example, notes (neutrally, it says) that there is no SPF record:
> 
> Received-SPF: none (google.com: heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com
> does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=75.127.70.2;
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>        spf=neutral (google.com: heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com
> does not designate permitted sender hosts)
> smtp.mail=heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com
> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43842 helo=ez18.ez-web-hosting.com)
> by ez18.ez-web-hosting.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82)
> (envelope-from <heeplist-bounces at travellersintime.com>)
> id 1Wnxcs-0007i3-J1; Fri, 23 May 2014 18:07:42 -0400
> 
> 
> I used to host a mailing list in a similar environment, and I can feel
> the list admins' pain.
> 
> Sorry about the heavy geek content.  Back to Heep.
> 
> --Esa
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Heepfan1 <ehallib at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am not on Yahoo and I don't have problems, right now.  To address Bob's
>> problem:  all I had to do to was to 'allow' the domain and also to accept
>> my individual address for my email account.  Maybe this will help others...
>> I don't know.  Another reminder:  I have had to do this several times over
>> the years as the email server seems to forget relationships.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Todd Clark <tuck0411 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: May 23, 2014 4:22 PM
>>> To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" <
>> heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] This list is bouncing all over the place
>>> 
>>> Has anyone *not* using a Yahoo email received one of these bounce notices?
>>> If not, I'm guessing there may be a connection between the Yahoo users
>>> getting bounce notices and their emails ending up in the Spam folders for
>>> some of the rest of us.
>>> 
>>> The quickest way to resolve it might be for those using Yahoo to set up an
>>> account with another service (gmail or MSN, for example) to use for the
>>> Heeplist.
>>> 
>>> And yes, Andre, your email was in my Spam folder (again).
>>> 
>>> Todd C.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Andre Sokolnikov <asokolni2002 at yahoo.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have received the third notice this month but could not find the usual
>>>> "enable" option after clicking the link. Does anyone know what is going
>> on?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Andre
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Fri, 5/23/14, Sherri Terhorst <tippandy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Heeplist] This list is bouncing all over the place
>>>>  To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in Time)" <
>>>> heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>>>>  Date: Friday, May 23, 2014, 2:52 PM
>>>> 
>>>>  From what I can tell, any list mails
>>>>  that are from Yahoo users are going to
>>>>  my spam.  I'm not sure how to fix it or if it's a Yahoo
>>>>  thing or gmail
>>>>  thing or both. This is relatively new.  I have no
>>>>  problem getting regular
>>>>  Yahoo emails.  I tried adding the the Yahoo addresses
>>>>  to my friends lists,
>>>>  but they are still going to spam.  Anyway, could be
>>>>  what's happening with
>>>>  others who are not getting some list emails.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ed can you describe the settings?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/22/14 7:57 PM, "Ed Halliburton" <ehallib at earthlink.net>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> No problem here either since I reset some email
>>>>  settings.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: DAVID M SHERROD <porcupineheep at cox.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: May 22, 2014 7:48 PM
>>>>>>> To: "Heepsters Mailing List (Travellers in
>>>>  Time) "
>>>>>>> <heeplist at travellersintime.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Heeplist] This list is bouncing
>>>>  all over the place
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's been fine for me as well, at least as far
>>>>  as I can tell. DS
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tapio Minkkinen <tapio at uriah-heep.fi>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Strangely I haven't had any problems with
>>>>  the list lately. No bounces
>>>>>>>> and I seem to be receiving all the mails.
>>>>  It could be because my
>>>>>>>> e-mail provider is called Welho (=Wizard
>>>>  in English) so it's let the
>>>>>>>> Heep related mails go through.:-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> TapioM.
>>>>>>>> tapio at uriah-heep.fi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> www.uriah-heep.fi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>  From: Wayne Catalde <2robcatway at att.net>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Your membership in the mailing
>>>>  list Heeplist has been disabled due to
>>>>>>>>>> excessive bounces
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here we go again!
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> http://www.travellersintime.com
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://travellersintime.com/mailman/listinfo/heeplist_travellersintime.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Travellers in Time Website
>>>>>> http://www.travellersintime.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Official Uriah Heep Website
>>>>>> http://www.uriah-heep.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Heeplist mailing list
>>>>> Heeplist at travellersintime.com
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://travellersintime.com/mailman/listinfo/heeplist_travellersintime.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Travellers in Time Website
>>>>> http://www.travellersintime.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Official Uriah Heep Website
>>>>> http://www.uriah-heep.com
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  --
>>>>  Sherri
>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>  Heeplist mailing list
>>>>  Heeplist at travellersintime.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://travellersintime.com/mailman/listinfo/heeplist_travellersintime.com
>>>> 
>>>>  Travellers in Time Website
>>>>  http://www.travellersintime.com
>>>> 
>>>>  Official Uriah Heep Website
>>>>  http://www.uriah-heep.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> 
>> http://travellersintime.com/mailman/listinfo/heeplist_travellersintime.com
>>>> 
>>>> Travellers in Time Website
>>>> http://www.travellersintime.com
>>>> 
>>>> Official Uriah Heep Website
>>>> http://www.uriah-heep.com
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Heeplist mailing list
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>>> 
>> http://travellersintime.com/mailman/listinfo/heeplist_travellersintime.com
>>> 
>>> Travellers in Time Website
>>> http://www.travellersintime.com
>>> 
>>> Official Uriah Heep Website
>>> http://www.uriah-heep.com
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Official Uriah Heep Website
>> http://www.uriah-heep.com
>> 
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