[Heeplist] Led Zeppelin Deluxe Remasters

DAVID M SHERROD porcupineheep at cox.net
Thu Apr 3 15:38:57 EDT 2014


That sums it up pretty well Igor and you hit the nail on the head, and I agree. DS

Igor Shveitser <zlenko_iv at mail.ru> wrote:

> Blame it on the clumsiness of Bron's management, Bob, and also on the fact that Heep never were that good as a star product for the mass listener. They never had their own Page ("superguitarist"), Bonzo ("the ultimate rock drummer of all times") Plant ("a guy with unique voice, a sex symbol of rock") and really highly professional Mr. Baldwin  (J.P.Jones). It was almost the same with Purple... and other great bands, Heep for instance, always missed that "star" component, that's why, imho, they never got what we think they deserved. Also, I suppose, if you are more into a pop-song way of composing (Heep's way, in a way Purple's as well), you'll never be as acknowledged, as if you are a more bluesy-psychedellic-crazy type (Zeppelin), got that (not-of-this-Earth) approach. Heep's combination was never a winning one, a solution "for all". Let me draw you a picture: imagine, we have simple pop, we have opera and we have operetta. Only 3 genres are are here to show how it mostly divides in some rock fans heads: music is either smth unlistenable (pop), or it is a piece of fine art (opera). Also we have something which isn't particularly bad, but it reveals not so many new ideas to call it a masterpiece. Also it is lighthearted. If we discuss classical music, we have operetta in approximately this position: composers are great, singers are great - but you'll never hear a music school teacher telling his pupils first of Strauss or Lehar then of Bach or Mozart. And trust me, for some rock fans Heep are that kind of operetta band.
>Cheers, Igor
>
>
>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 17:07:52 -0400 от Bob Winward <uriahheep at comcast.net>:
>>I have up to this point been staying out of this discussion.  Yes I did like
>>LZ at one time, I even owned Houses of the Holy as one of about 10 8 tracks
>>and played it all the time.  My favorite was Dyer Maker and Has anyone seen
>>that Confounded Bridge.  Then Stairway to Heaven came out and I was
>>mesmerized.  I also loved Whole Lotta Love, a truly great rock song.  Then
>>in September 1974 I heard Heep for the first time and it was love at first
>>listen.  To me Heep was the ultimate band and still are, LZ over the years
>>quickly faded into in my past.  Sure they were played to death on classic
>>radio, far more than they should have.  They were a great band, but sadly
>>stopped when John Bonham passed away.
>>
>>Instead we should be talking as to why Heep never got the airplay LZ did.  I
>>remember hearing David Byron was upset about that too.
>>
>>
>>On 4/1/14 12:42 PM, "Wayne Catalbe" < 2robcatway at att.net > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a huge Zeppelin fan, and I don't have any problem with anyone who
>>> doesn't like the band, but IMO anyone who calls Zeppelin overrated is
>>> suffering from jealousy that they have become the most important hard rock
>>> band in history.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is such a great statement that it begged for a re-post.
>>> 
>>> I believe you've hit the nail on the head Jay! To lesson the impact that
>>> Zeppelin had on heavy blues based RnR is nothing short of a cheap shot based
>>> in jealousy that a band so shunned by the critics in their heyday has now
>>> become the benchmark that embodies everything that RnR is meant to be.
>>> 
>>> Led Zeppelin were more than just a band, they were the perfect combination
>>> of the most intense elements music has to offer, passion, mystery and
>>> virtuoso musicianship. Led Zeppelin were searching for something, they
>>> weren't content being in one place, one genre, one style, they were always
>>> searching for something new. They could do anything, and did! The only thing
>>> capable of de-railing the mighty Zeppelin was the tragic death of John
>>> Bonham September 25, 1980.
>>> 
>>> I consider Jimmy Page an absolute genius possessed. Jimmy Page took the
>>> guitar to a whole new level, and he did it in such a magnificently human and
>>> imperfect way. Page plays with the passion of an old bluesman possessed at
>>> the crossroads. Zeppelin concerts were like exorcisms for both band and
>>> audience. You don't simply listen to a Zeppelin live show, your absolutely
>>> drenched in emotion from start to finish. The previously mentioned January
>>> 9, 1970 show at the Royal Albert Hall is the perfect example. Zeppelin had
>>> the ability to bring you to tears one minuet and fill you with joy the next,
>>> careening and smashing through the room like a speeding train out of control
>>> all in a mater of moments, it's a rollercoaster ride of emotion. Led
>>> Zeppelin were not just another band of musicians playing their instruments,
>>> they were like an emotional conduit taking their audience on a musical
>>> journey of soundscapes like no other.
>>> 
>>> Love them or hate them you can't simply dismiss the legacy they've left in
>>> their wake.
>>> 
>>> W 
>>> 
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