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Since the passing of Foghat's legendary founding frontman and main writer 'Lonesome' Dave Peverett in 2000 American born singer/guitarist Charlie Huhn [ex Ted Nigent, Victory] has been at the mic for the legendary heavy blues based rock band. Originally from England, now based in the US, with founding member Roger Earl on drums being the lone Brit left. A while back I had the pleasure to talk to Charlie Huhn about Foghat's more recent releases, his time with the band, and other parts of his career. For more info check out: www.foghat.net & www.varesevintage.wordpress.com (for the latest Foghat "Live At The Blues Warehouse" release). Where about are you guys located?
CH- the drummer's in New
York, I'm in Florida and so is the guitar player and the bass
player's in Pennsylvania.
You've been in Foghat for a
good few years now, how did that all come about and how familiar
were you with them before hand?
CH- I was really familiar
with them, ever since before they were Foghat. I followed Dave
and Tony and Roger when they were in Savoy Brown. And then in
'71 when Foghat 1 came out I was in college and that was one of
the most rockin' albums of the year! And then when Dave passed
away he told Roger, before he died - that he should keep the
band going and he suggested that he should get the guy that was
singing in Humble Pie, me.
Was it an easy transition for
you?
CH - well i had to learn
about 25 songs, and I'm used to doing that. So it was a pretty
easy transition but i wanted to get it dead-on, so i picked up a
lot of Dave's vocal nuances and made sure i had all the guitar
parts better than excellent. And that drives us - having the
solid rhythm section and backing track music, with the vocals on
top.
Out of the back catalogue
you've obviously got a lot of 70s classics like Fool For The
City and Slow Ride and all those great tracks. What have been
some of the favorites for you personally, and songs you enjoy
doing the most?
CH- I enjoy doing the
Chateau Le Fitte '59 Boogie a lot because we put a Savoy Brown
boogie in the middle of it, and it really cooks, and also I like
doing Ride Ride Ride, which is a new addition to the set. We
start our set with it this year, and it just really sets up the
whole evening with a great kind of regal intro to it and then a
driving A rocker, if you know what I mean.
Do you guys alternate the set a lot and is there anything in the catalogue that you still want to add in?
CH- Well, we've touched
on almost everything from Terraplane Blues to Third Time Lucky,
and it was the first time we've ever played that live, so... We
keep adding new material every year. Last year we did a new
version of Road Fever, which was like the 'Live' version, and we
started the set with that. And we've done Trouble Trouble, we've
done Home In My Hand, and we always do the ones like Stone Blue
and Drivin Wheel and Fool For The City, Slow Ride, and I Just
Wanna Make Love To You -- those are kind of like the
'standards', but we end up changing around the rest of the set.
We used to do a bunch of stuff from the Family Joules CD that we
put out in 2003.
How much of that do you guys
still keep in the live set?
CH- Well it's kinda of
taken it's run and a couple of years ago we finally stopped
playing Mumbo Jumbo. We were playing Mumbo Jumbo a lot, and in
the early days, along with 3 or 4 others.
There was a lot of good
rockin' stuff on there. How was the reaction to that album?
CH- Well, it was a little
mild, but the problem is getting it out to the people and
letting them know it's available, which is kind of difficult
these days. But we got a pretty good fan base left, and we were
selling a lot of them at the live shows and we had it on Amazon,
CD Baby ... to name a few of the places where it was available.
Getting the word out is so tough these days, but for an older
classic rock band....
It was a good 'band' album in
the sense that you guys all wrote stuff for it. Like i said
there's a lot of good rock stuff. I notice you guys get in to
the more 'party' type - straight ahead rockers.....
CH- That's kind of the
Foghat attitude anyway, kinda 'happy go lucky' and positive
attitude stuff.
Yeah,
I almost get, on a couple of songs - with your vocals, it's
almost like an AC/DC vibe.
CH- Yeah, it's
interesting, my higher range tends to have that timber in it,
it's not a bad thing, but when it sounds a little too much like
Bon Scott, you kind of wonder what's going on. I'm
kind of surprised to hear that result, but it's all good. It's
all high energy positive rock n roll - and that's what we're all
about, so...
Now you guys have done the
Live album at the Warehouse...
CH- Yeah, Live At The
Blues Warehouse is a single CD, and that we put out earlier this
year because it turned out really well. It was a live radio
broadcast that we played in Long Island. We played with little
amps in kind of this large studio. But it turned out great
sounding, so we decided to release it. We were happy with it.
And there were a couple of never-before heard tracks that Foghat
has never recorded, like Shake Yer Money Maker and ...I can't
remember the other one. But we really liked the results for that
one.
Now there was no audience for
that one - just the radio guys?
CH- Yep, exactly.
Is that a different feeling
for you guys to play..
CH- well, a little bit.
We had 4 people there listening to us; friends that kind of hang
out. But we can have fun in a box, it's more like we're just
really enjoy playing and we're all players anyway. So once the
red light goes on, everybody kinda puts their nose to the
grindstone and everybody puts on a 110% - no matter if it's in a
box or if it's in front of 100 thousand people!
Well
it's a great sounding CD and i think compared to the Live 2
album - which I like as well, that maybe because of the sound,
it's a little 'gelled' sounding, I guess. How happy
were you with the Live 2 album?
CH- Oh, I was real happy
with that. That was one of our 'welcome back Craig MacGregor'
double live CD because that showed the new line-up after Tony
left and it was great to get Mac back in the fold. We were just
going to put out one CD, but it turned out that we played so
well that night and there was extra material that we decided to
put out a double live CD.
It's a great set, because it
not only covers just the classics, but it also touches on
different Foghat tunes, because you know - the band kind of gets
pigeon-holed for a couple of songs and this shows there's much
more in the catalogue.
CH - well, thanks!
What can you tell me about
the guys you're playing with?
CH- Bryan Bassett is lead
guitar player, plays slide and background vocals - and he's an
engineer as well. A really blow your mind - great player. I keep
threatening him to collect $5 every time i hear a mistake and
I've never collected any money yet. So, it's something i can
count on from him and that's really a confidence builder because
when you have someone who's that consistent it just helps you
relax and allows you to concentrate more instead of having to
worry if somebody's going to remember their parts or do a good
job. And Bryan came from Molly Hatchet, and back in the 70s he
was in Pittsburgh's finest disco-rock band - Wild Cherry. And on
bass - Craig MacGregor. He's just a real A plus plus bass
player, and just a wonderful human being and just wonderful to
work with. And it's an honor to be playing with him because he's
legendary Foghat. And Roger, there's not much more I can say
other than he's a British percussion legend and it's wonderful
to be around him with his sense of humour and his generosity.
It's just a tremendous organization - the whole thing.
I
gather, and Roger being the founding member that you guys really
gelled as a band!? It's not a one-man show or
anything.
CH- No, that was the idea
going in. And not one of us can do it by themselves, so the name
of the band is Foghat, so it was decided it would be projected
in that direction. And that's the way to get the best out of
everyone, i think. And it helps us continue to support the
tradition of the band and not being a solo act or something like
that.
Now you, yourself have done
quite a bit of stuff prior to Foghat. Ted Nugent for one, a band
called Deadringer...
CH- That was just one CD.
we never did a tour, but i did 4 albums with Victory over in
Europe, and 2 of those were released in the States, and I did an
album with Gary Moore back in '83, and Tommy Aldridge was on
drums and Jimmy Bain was on bass, and then I played with Humble
Pie - Jerry Shirley for 12 years from '88 to 2000. We put out
one live CD, "Rockin' The Agora".
That's
interesting because I hear a bit of a Steve Marriott influence
in your voice!?
CH - I really enjoyed
Steve Marriott; he was one of my first vocal heroes, you know
way back in the Small Faces days. And we worked together when I
was with Ted Nugent, so I got to meet him and it really was a
tremendous experience. Having the opportunity to work with Jerry
and do Humble Pie, I had the chance to perform the Steve
Marriott vocals - which was fun. And it taught me a lot. It
worked out pretty well. It's just one of those things that
happens when you're lucky in life, you can meet some of your
goals, you know.
Who else was in that version
of Humble Pie?
CH- When we first started
out in '88 Wally Socker from The Babys was on guitar, he'd
played with Rod Stewart and Air Supply. On bass was Anthony
Jones, he was from New York - The Planets, and he was on the
last 2 Humble Pie studio albums with Steve Marriott - "Go For
The Throat" and [I can't remember the other] - it has the
airplane on the cover, a cartoon drawing.
And why did that version of Humble Pie end?
CH- Well, after 12 years
Jerry decided that he wanted to quit playing, so he went back to
England and everybody kind of went their own way.
I had read that there was
some dispute over the use of the name at one point!?
CH - Oh no. In fact Steve
Marriott allowed Jerry to use the name because Steve was all
finished doing Humble Pie, and he'd done some solo albums after
that and Jerry wanted to continue. So there was never any
problem. In Fact Jerry put an album out back in '02 or '03 with
the original bass player - Greg Ridley, and he had Bobby Tench
on vocals and guitar and another guy from England who used to be
in Bad Company, a real good player and songwriter. That came out
in about '03 and was distributed over in England.
Do you have any favorite
Humble Pie stuff?
CH- I like anything Steve
Marriott did vocally, but I think some of my favorite Humble Pie
stuff was on "Town And Country" and then [of course] everything
from "Smokin" and "Eat It" had a bunch of stuff that was great,
and even some of the later stuff like "Fool For A Pretty Face".
We performed most of those songs that we really liked - "Natural
Born Bugie", even "Sweet Peace And Time" and of course, "30 Days
In The Hole" and "I Don't Need No Doctor", "Hot 'N Nasty"..
there's just so many great ones that you could keep going on and
on.
The
other thing you did was work with Ted Nugent. What
was Ted like to work with?
CH- Ted was wonderful;
funny as hell! always on stage. But when you got him when you
were the only ones around and he was normal - he's a real
intelligent guy, real generous. In fact he and I get along
great, we have a lot in common, so we had a great time together.
I did 4 albums with him; 2 of them went Platinum, 3 of them went
Gold, and that was my introduction to the 'big time', you know!?
I was on "Weekend Warriors", "State Of Shock", "Scream Dream"
and "Intensities In Ten Cities".
So you were there for his peak?
CH- Oh yeah, that was at
his peak in popularity. In fact we were headlining all the major
stadium rock festivals, and co-headlining with Aerosmith and
AC/DC, Journey, and I remember when Van Halen broke and they
were opening for us. It was just amazing! It was
just a tremendous era to be in the big time.
Would you recall in the late '70s doing any shows with Ted that included Uriah Heep on the bill?
CH- I vaguely do remember
the openers, but we usually weren't there for openers, we'd show
up a half hour before show-time. But I did some work with Uriah
Heep in the '80s when I was with Victory. That was a lot of fun
because they had the bass player from Spiders From Mars, David
Bowie's band - Trevor Bolder. And it was just such an honor
meeting him and of course, the original guys from the band. They
were another one of those great bands from early 70s, from
England.
So, your influences in the
early days would've been more from the British scene than the
American scene then?
CH- Yes. My early 70s
influences were bands like, well - Rory Gallagher was one of my
influences, and I really liked Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix of
course. I was just learning how to play and sing, so
I kind of modeled my style after the singing-guitar players.
I liked Johnny Winter a lot, and of course - earlier influences
like Buddy Holly and Elvis Presley. But the English bands that I
liked a lot were Ten Years After, Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull,
Spooky Tooth...
Are you amazed to see that
there are still so many bands still out there from that era?
CH- Oh yeah, sure. Any of
them that are able to keep playing are just a pleasure to see. I
even went to see Page and Plant a few years ago, and they were
just awesome. I remember seeing them back in 1969 in Chicago.
You know, there aren't really too many of those late 60s, early
70s English bands out there any more.
One album you did that I wanted to mention was the Deadringer album, because I went out and saw Joe Bouchard and Dennis Dunaway a few months ago. CH- Oh good. In fact, I talked to Jay Johnson today and he's going to sit in with us on Saturday in Ohio. He's a great friend of mine. Jay's awesome. Dennis Dunaway - tremendous bass player; it's great to see him out playing again, and Neal Smith, of course was the heart of the rhythm section of the Alice Cooper's original band, and he's quite a character himself.
And then Joe, himself. That [Deadringer]
was a bit of a 'supergroup' really.
CH - Yeah, and it's fun
to be involved in something like that. I wish we
could've had better sales, but I don't know what happened, but
there was a lot of good music on that CD. It
could've been mixed a little better, I think. But,
sometimes that happens. We even covered a song written by Buck
Dharma from Blue Oyster Cult "Summa Cum Loud". And
that was a fun song. I play a lot with BOC, because we're
touring together on quite a few stages. We played together up in
BC [British Columbia], actually in Kelowna, about a month ago.
I just interviewed Joe a
couple of months ago and it's up at my site.
CH - Joe Bouchard!?
That's awesome!
He's got a new solo album
out, which is really good.
CH - Oh, that's great!
What else do you guys got
going in the works, aside from touring. Any plans for a future
studio album?
CH - Well, we're going to
be recording a Foghat blues album. And it's going to have a
couple of tracks that we already recorded, that are new Foghat
tunes. Actually, we covered a Savoy Brown blues song called
"Needle And Spoon", and a song that John Mayall made famous -
"So Many Roads". Those 2 are going to be included, and some of
the old Foghat blues staples like "Sweet Home Chicago" and the
old Elmore James song "Hurts Me Too", things like that, that are
some of the major blues influences from Foghat. So that's coming
out next year.
Do you have anything going
outside of the band? Or are you guys primarily just focused on
the Foghat stuff?
CH - Well, I've got my
name in the yellow pages, but nobody calls. Just kidding!
I've got a side project going on with a German guitar player,
who's living in Uraguay, South America. And he works with my
schedule, which is nice, and it's fun to do different material.
His name is Matt Rorehr, and he's from the hard-metal band
called Bohse Onkelze over in Germany, who broke up in '05.
And we just recorded his second solo CD in April, and it'll come
out in October.
Have you ever considered a
solo album?
CH - Yeah, I've given
that some thought because I've met a bunch of people in my
career and it'd be fun to invite them all to perform on
something. It'd be great to put it all down. I've got a bunch of
ideas rolling through my brain and I'll probably just sit down
and put it all on paper sometime. As for 2010, I don't think it
will be in that year, but maybe 2011.
What have been some of the
highlights during your time with Foghat - the biggest moments
and biggest shows for you?
CH - Some of these city
festivals have been just amazing! Everywhere from Aurora,
Illinois to Ashville, North Carolina -- you have a city festival
and you have Foghat on the bill and the streets just fill up
with people. So we've played quite a few shows and it never
fails, people just come out of the woodworks. So every show has
been exciting for us. There's very few that were poorly attended
or mismanaged to the point of there isn't an audience. So, all
in all I've just had nothing but the highest kudos for this band
because of the results of every show. It's been fantastic!
Well, one thing I've got to
say, and wrote in my review is I don't think the band could've
found a more suitable replacement for Dave. [CH - Thank you]
... I know the songs, a lot of them are Dave's songs, but they
also suit you.
CH - Thank you very much!
It's an honor to carry the tradition on. And like I said before,
we're kind of all from the same bolt of cloth - we all love to
play, and nobody would even think about giving %110 when it's
time to play. So from that standpoint, I'm in with the right
guys.
I think it's great that the
band is still going and probably as strong as ever. There was a
lot of years there where they were fighting over the name and
everything else.
CH - Exactly, and there
was other issues - like Rod was diagnosed with bi-polar. He was
was critically depressed and had to take medication, and when he
wouldn't take his medication he was just miserable and he made
everybody else miserable. And that's really
unfortunate. He was such a great player, so to see the demise
like that was really tough for those guys to endure.
Other than that, the band did really well together, the core
stayed together. Tony left in 1975, but he had a
different vision and it wasn't what the other guys wanted, so he
got bought out in 1975. And then it was great for him to get
back in the band in '94 when Rick Rubin got the reunion together
with the original line-up.
That was a great album!
CH - Yeah, they put out
great stuff and it was great to see the original band together.
And that's when I first saw Foghat was in '97. I'd
heard about them for decades but had never seen them.
Tony left again. Is there any
legal issues still, as far as the name goes?
CH - No, that was all
resolved, and Tony went to do his own thing. He left
in '05 and that's when Craig MacGregor came back.
Tony's kind of set in his ways and he wants to do things his
way, so it's understandable. Musicians kind of have
their own way of doing things, so that's why it's tough
sometimes to get 4 people to sit down and agree about
everything, you know.
Well, it's kind of neat that
the 2 new guys have been in the Foghat family previously, so
it's not like it's a new band centered around 1 guy; it's a very
legitimate and energetic band.
CH - Exactly!
Before I let you go, anything
you listen to and are listening to currently?
CH - Well, I'm enjoying
listening to a lot of younger bands. There's a band
out of Detroit called The Mugs and I like Jet and Airbourne,
bands like that. I also like old industrial bands
like Nine Inch Nails and other bands from that era, Stone Temple
Pilots, things like that. But, I'm all ears I like
to listen to everything from Jazz to classical to contemporary
rock n roll and all that. So, I'm just kinda like a
Heinz 57. Ha ha...
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Review: © Kevin J. Julie / Universal Wheels: August, 2009